Natalie Elphicke defecates to Labour

[Wilf]

Her neighbour, Yvette Cooper said NE was a changed woman on R4 earlier.

So, what's the change, is she now Elphicke Natalie?

 

[SpookyFrank]

I appreciate it's unlikely to happen, but if Elphicke had a decent sense of humour she's got the chance to do something really funny here, now Starmer's rolled out the red carpet she should now just announce "oh, by the way, I think Corbyn was right about the claims of antisemitism within Labour being exaggerated for factional purposes" or similar.

Penny Mordaunt got in a pretty good dig by saying she couldn't defect to labour because she's too left wing.

 

[kenny g]

Trying to clear her conscience perhaps bit like people who find religion in their last days.

Doing a Brand?

 

[Raheem]

Penny Mordaunt got in a pretty good dig by saying she couldn't defect to labour because she's too left wing.

A dig? An explanation, I would have thought.

 

[SpookyFrank]

A dig? An explanation, I would have thought.

Well yeah it works as both a joke and a statement of fact.

 

[Raheem]

Well yeah it works as both a joke and a statement of fact.

It's funny because it's depressing.

 

[hitmouse]

Penny Mordaunt got in a pretty good dig by saying she couldn't defect to labour because she's too left wing.

Just looked it up and, presumably from the same speech:
"What next: a photo op with a bulldog? A lecture on how misunderstood Enoch Powell was?"

 

[brogdale]

S.Times going for it...

 

[brogdale]

and there we have it:



So, we're gonna see the LP defending this, now?

 

[Wilf]

and there we have it:

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So, we're gonna see the LP defending this, now?

Indeed. Though equally, it's pathetic the tories storing this up and not kicking her out at the time

 

[brogdale]

Indeed. Though equally, it's pathetic the tories storing this up and not kicking her out at the time

Yeah, proper shady all round.

 

[hash tag]

The guardian is reporting she threw a tantrum with the Tories when she didn't get what she wanted and walked out.

 

[Dystopiary]

Did anyone see her "apology" to his victims? She didn't even say what she was apologising for, nor did she acknowledge her wrongdoing.

Watch: Elphicke apologises to ex-husband's victims

 

[brogdale]

Did anyone see her "apology" to his victims? She didn't even say what she was apologising for, nor did she acknowledge her wrongdoing.

Watch: Elphicke apologises to ex-husband's victims

S.Times also going with one victim's rejection of the 'apology':

 

[hash tag]

Not surprising I guess about how the right wing press are turning against her.

 

[two sheds]

If only she'd been given that ministerial post she wouldn't have gone all mardy and had to transfer

 

[_Russ_]

Whole thing a setup, bitch Has no moral anyway, classic psychopath...heres a giant wad of cash go see if those dull fuckers over there will let you in their club that'll lose the feckers a few votes you're no use to use over here anyway

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Whole thing a setup, bitch Has no moral anyway, classic psychopath...heres a giant wad of cash go see if those dull fuckers over there will let you in their club that'll lose the feckers a few votes you're no use to use over here anyway

Why do you equate her with a female dog?

 

[danny la rouge]

Why do you equate her with a female dog?

Yes, there’s no need to use sexist terms, even of people who have behaved despicably.

 

[brogdale]

Why do you equate her with a female dog?

given that we have the accepted, gender neutral, descriptor of vermin this looks like casual misogyny

 

[Orang Utan]

given that we have the accepted, gender neutral, descriptor of vermin this looks like casual misogyny

Is vermin accepted? Should we be using dehumanising language about anyone?

 

[brogdale]

Is vermin accepted? Should we be using dehumanising language about anyone?

Sorry, I had assumed it was; it is by me, at least. Perhaps I should have made that clear?
IMO, yes, the term is historically established and completely relevant and appropriate for those that impose their dehumanising ideology for their own greed.

 

[Saul Goodman]

Is vermin accepted? Should we be using dehumanising language about anyone?

Acceptable through usage

 

[brogdale]

Anyways...seems like the vermin (CCHQ) have been at their SWOT analysis over the weekend....

 

[Orang Utan]

Sorry, I had assumed it was; it is by me, at least. Perhaps I should have made that clear?
IMO, yes, the term is historically established and completely relevant and appropriate for those that impose their dehumanising ideology for their own greed.

You don’t feel uncomfortable using the same language to describe people you don’t like as those who have committed genocide? I certainly do.

 

[brogdale]

You don’t feel uncomfortable using the same language to describe people you don’t like as those who have committed genocide? I certainly do.

No, not at all, but I respect your sensitivity.
(lower than) vermin is actually a pretty good descriptor for those that are ideologically harmful to and parasitic upon the common good.

 

[Orang Utan]

No, not at all, but I respect your sensitivity.
(lower than) vermin is actually a pretty good descriptor for those that are ideologically harmful to and parasitic upon the common good.

I get there are differences - being a Tory is a choice after all. I’m sure I have used similar language before about political enemies, bullies and other people who are unpleasant by choice.
But I still feel uneasy about it. Feels like stooping to the level of those who use similar language about immigrants. I felt the same when there was a trend on here to describe certain people as ‘surplus’.

 

[two sheds]

Is a fair point - any suggestions for an alternative?

 

[Orang Utan]

Is a fair point - any suggestions for an alternative?

surely Tory is enough?

 

[two sheds]

perhaps "at the same level as vermin" or even "slightly better than vermin" to show that we've mellowed over the years?

Was actually a bit unfair asking you for an alternative, as Johnson pointed out you don't need to be a cobbler to know that your boots don't fit.