each one has been carefully noted down in my book.
Labour & Anti-Semitism.
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belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
Haven’t we? My word you’re an arrogant buffoon.
danny la rouge
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Stephen Solley and Daniel Staetsky I’ll give you, but get a fucking grip.
bimble
floofy
Stephen Solley QC!
You’re disappointing rummo.
Just say what you want to say.
Are you a person who blames lying jews for the fact that corbyn is not PM now or is it something else that motivates you to post incessantly about this.
Treacle Toes
Time
danny la rouge
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He doesn’t say anything. He just wonders.
I why why why wonder why
bimble
floofy
You think he's an antisemite now? Why?You are clearly on a wind up now. Have they rumbled you?
danny la rouge
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Wondering. Wondering. Wondering
FridgeMagnet
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I've been reminded of talking to my dad about this last Christmas.
He was quite disturbed by the fact that an old friend of his (long time active Labour member, and Jewish) had left the party saying he didn't feel comfortable in it any more. The friend wasn't there to talk about it, and I don't know the friend that well, so I couldn't really talk about his position and motivations, but my dad was convinced that there was no anti-semitism on the left. I spent a while explaining that yeah there definitely was, I'd seen it, I could point to examples, this is how it works, blah blah, and maybe he took what I was saying seriously. But he just didn't see it on his own, and he apparently didn't generally encounter people who would explain the details to him rather than just be using it as leftie-bashing, and he would generally be defensive - "at the local meeting X was saying she'd never heard anything anti-semitic in Labour in her life, and she's Jewish" etc.
My dad is very ethical and sticks very strongly to his principles, and he is smart, but he isn't always necessarily that good on subtexts. I had to warn him about fringe stuff around some of the environmental/Occupy/etc movements that he was getting into a few years ago, not because the movements were bad but because I knew some of the types who hung around the edges and I knew he wouldn't notice it. Is he anti-semitic? I mean maybe by some definitions - he probably holds some unexamined prejudices and assumptions. But his response was mostly about defending an idea of the ethics of a group he felt part of because of their ethics, and he picked up on examples of clearly bad faith attacks to do this. He didn't blame Mossad or anything, he was just biased towards accepting explanations which wouldn't cause cognitive dissonance.
Of course, my dad isn't leader of the Labour party, so it doesn't really make a lot of difference to broader society what he thinks.
(NB I am not using this as a metaphor for anyone posting here. This is just me musing.)
He was quite disturbed by the fact that an old friend of his (long time active Labour member, and Jewish) had left the party saying he didn't feel comfortable in it any more. The friend wasn't there to talk about it, and I don't know the friend that well, so I couldn't really talk about his position and motivations, but my dad was convinced that there was no anti-semitism on the left. I spent a while explaining that yeah there definitely was, I'd seen it, I could point to examples, this is how it works, blah blah, and maybe he took what I was saying seriously. But he just didn't see it on his own, and he apparently didn't generally encounter people who would explain the details to him rather than just be using it as leftie-bashing, and he would generally be defensive - "at the local meeting X was saying she'd never heard anything anti-semitic in Labour in her life, and she's Jewish" etc.
My dad is very ethical and sticks very strongly to his principles, and he is smart, but he isn't always necessarily that good on subtexts. I had to warn him about fringe stuff around some of the environmental/Occupy/etc movements that he was getting into a few years ago, not because the movements were bad but because I knew some of the types who hung around the edges and I knew he wouldn't notice it. Is he anti-semitic? I mean maybe by some definitions - he probably holds some unexamined prejudices and assumptions. But his response was mostly about defending an idea of the ethics of a group he felt part of because of their ethics, and he picked up on examples of clearly bad faith attacks to do this. He didn't blame Mossad or anything, he was just biased towards accepting explanations which wouldn't cause cognitive dissonance.
Of course, my dad isn't leader of the Labour party, so it doesn't really make a lot of difference to broader society what he thinks.
(NB I am not using this as a metaphor for anyone posting here. This is just me musing.)
danny la rouge
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No, I wouldn’t either. Your Dad seems sound.
danny la rouge
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Oh yeah, the ice cream guy. You got selfies with him? Jews love you, don’t they?
Shechemite
Be the sun and all will see you
Quite cold?
Shechemite
Be the sun and all will see you
Something about rootless neopolitans
danny la rouge
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They don’t understand English irony.
Shechemite
Be the sun and all will see you
Getting ice cream at Great Yarmouth in February never made any sense to me as a kid
Shechemite
Be the sun and all will see you
Or trying to fly a kite there. Oh look it’s blown away in the gale. Again.
danny la rouge
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Yeah, took that too far. Sorry. Only had one coffee.
bimble
floofy
Happy Chanukah. The festival that has no correct spelling would be fine with tea lights?
danny la rouge
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Happy Chanukah all.
cantsin
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ffs.... just looked up the Stephen Solley / Mirwitch stuff...... then clicked through to the twitter thread.
...for her to actually post this up
and forget to mention that this was received from an elderly , lifelong jewish socialist and human rights QC, who she then starts seriously harassing via his workplace, the Labour Party etc, whilst lapping up the ' sending solidarity ' pile on.
Hope you're enjoying yourselves kicking this Rummo about on here though - this stuff is farcical.
danny la rouge
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I’m remembering a Friends episode where Ross keeps starting to explain the history of the festival but keeps getting interrupted, so all he gets out is “Once upon a time there was a tribe called the Macabees...”
I’m guessing most of us didn’t find out any more either. And probably think it has something to do with an armadillo.
I’m guessing most of us didn’t find out any more either. And probably think it has something to do with an armadillo.
bimble
floofy
I think we are all pretty much agreed that this Miriam person probably behaved like a dick on that day in January.
The constant banging on about it (Stephen Solley QC!) serves what purpose - unless you think it’s representative of something much broader really commonplace and important. Like jews lying and over reacting in order to.. hurt nice old men?
The constant banging on about it (Stephen Solley QC!) serves what purpose - unless you think it’s representative of something much broader really commonplace and important. Like jews lying and over reacting in order to.. hurt nice old men?
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