Labour & Anti-Semitism.

[Knotted]

more of a whine than a bleat

More of a "please waste more time on me" than a whine. Fuck this guy.

 

[Pickman's model]

More of a "please waste more time on me" than a whine. Fuck this guy.

 

[rummo]

You think so? Remember when those soldiers were using a Corbyn picture for target practice? I had an exchange with a long term poster - Sasaferrato - who assumed my criticism of those boneheads meant I was a Corbyn fan. He couldn’t see that serving soldiers shooting a likeness of the leader of the opposition (whoever that might be) was something to be concerned about.

You haven’t bothered finding out about us. But you seem very, very interested in the Jews. Which is, you know, a bit weird. Try widening your interests. We also discuss the Wire.

No, what interests me is not 'the Jews,' but the weaponisation of anti Semitism and why it is happening, and why non Zionist Jews are being treated the way they are.

Which is not, you know, a bit weird.

 

[danny la rouge]

No, what interests me is not 'the Jews,' but the weaponisation of anti Semitism and why it is happening, and why non Zionist Jews are being treated the way they are.

Which is not, you know, a bit weird.

RTFM, as they used to say.

 

[belboid]

I often wonder why people weaponise things that are handed to them on a plate as potential weapons.

 

[rummo]

I often wonder why people weaponise things that are handed to them on a plate as potential weapons.

But not in the Tory Party though?

Is that not odd?

 

[bimble]

For someone so obsessed rummo you haven’t got a clue. If you had to explain what the difference is between a Zionist Jew (evil) and a non Zionist Jew (good) what would you even say?
Do they have to join in ‘from the river to the sea’ ? Do they have to think that boycotting all cultural exchange is a great idea?
I’m the kind of Jew for instance who at the most recent demonstration against the kids shot in Gaza stood there on my own with ranting loons around me talking absolute poisonous idiocy about jews & corbyn and it made me totally despair of ever having a safe & half principled place to stand. Does that make me the right or wrong kind or are you just a bit fucking simple.

 

[belboid]

But not in the Tory Party though?

Is that not odd?

and now your not just repeating eighteen months ago, you're repeating yourself.

No, it isn't at all odd. They're tories, being racist is part of the job description.

 

[Shechemite]

I’m a non-Zionist Jew and JLM gave me a free ticket to their annual conference

 

[kebabking]

But not in the Tory Party though?

Is that not odd?

Being a bastard while a member of the Bastard Party isn't a problem.

Being a bastard while a member of the Not-a-Bastard Party is a problem.

I'm somewhat at a loss as to why this should be so difficult for you to grasp. (Of course, I'm not, I understand exactly why you say the things you say...)

 

[Shechemite]

Just clicked on your name rummo and it looks like about 95% of your posts since you joined this website are about jews & antisemitism. If there’s a point that you want to get across, about this whole subject that’s clearly massively important to you, the key Truth that you want everyone to understand, can you say what it is?

rummo

 

[killer b]

I'd happily weaponise racism in the Conservative Party against them, given the chance tbf. That isn't possible for a multitude of reasons which just aren't fair, but which also have zero bearing on whether we have a moral - and strategic - duty to deal with racism in our own ranks.

 

[rummo]

and now your not just repeating eighteen months ago, you're repeating yourself.

No, it isn't at all odd. They're tories, being racist is part of the job description.

So Jewish members, or supporters, of the Tory Party who experience or are aware of anti Semitism within the Tory Party say nothing about it because they are also racists?

Is it as simple as that?

And does that then not mean that those Jewish people are not just racists but also anti Semites?

 

[Knotted]

If you look at rummo's posts you will not find any great interest in the Labour Party or the left, still less on eg. Israel/Palestine. He's very consistent it's about the weaponisation of antisemitism and when he's bolder it's explicitly about Jews weaponising antisemitism. There's nothing else there and he's not interested in listening. He's pushing a line because he thinks it's his way in here. He's not even a good representation of a broader problem. Once more - fuck this guy.

 

[bimble]

So Jewish members, or supporters, of the Tory Party who experience or are aware of anti Semitism within the Tory Party say nothing about it because they are also racists?

Is it as simple as that?

And does that then not mean that those Jewish people are not just racists but also anti Semites?

We expect it from them you twat. That is all. You think jews are surprised by the standard issue antisemitism that comes from the same people who in general hate foreigners immigrants and anyone who doesn't read the telegraph? Grow up.
A jew in this country (or one like me, normal state schools etc) learns early that in general its best to keep your head down about the whole being a jew thing. This is normal.
The normal tory version shows up in stupid boring ways like the red trousered old man whose christmas lunch i was invited to a few years ago who'd never met a jew before and said to me 'i have a lot of respect for you people, good business sense'. That was meant to be a compliment i think. The lunch was 2 kinds of pork.
We just hope for something better from people who describe themselves as lifelong anti racists.

 

[frogwoman]

I've had the 'you people are hard workers and good at business' as well. So good at business I was on a temp contract for £8ph.

 

[bimble]

Thing is that stupid fart of a tory didn't upset me at all, i just found the whole day funny. Because he's just an idiot, in his stupid massive house with a double sized fridge but not a single book in the whole place, so he was not someone whose bigotry either surprised or hurt me. I've met a few like that, doesn't hurt at all.

 

[frogwoman]

I wonder if it was the same guy.

 

[bimble]

can we name and shame ? I do not think he'll be a member of urban.

 

[rummo]

If you look at rummo's posts you will not find any great interest in the Labour Party or the left, still less on eg. Israel/Palestine. He's very consistent it's about the weaponisation of antisemitism and when he's bolder it's explicitly about Jews weaponising antisemitism. There's nothing else there and he's not interested in listening. He's pushing a line because he thinks it's his way in here. He's not even a good representation of a broader problem. Once more - fuck this guy.

No, it's about weaponisation of anti Semitism by everyone who does it, not just when it's done by Jews.

You may have got that impression because the only example I gave was Mirwich accusing Solley of anti Semitism, which I used because (a) it's pretty incontrovertible and (b) it would cause cause most people to wonder what was actually going on.

I'm not pushing a line.

And you flatter yourself by thinking I want 'in here,' whatever than means.

 

[killer b]

You've shat your pants Rummo, no-one's buying it. Fuck off.

 

[kebabking]

...And you flatter yourself by thinking I want 'in here,' whatever than means.

you seem singularly bad at not wanting to be here...

 

[Knotted]

You keep going on about Solley

No, it's about weaponisation of anti Semitism by everyone who does it, not just when it's done by Jews.

You may have got that impression because the only example I gave was Mirwich accusing Solley of anti Semitism, which I used because (a) it's pretty incontrovertible and (b) it would cause cause most people to wonder what was actually going on.

I'm not pushing a line.

And you flatter yourself by thinking I want 'in here,' whatever than means.

It's almost as if the Sollley/Mirwich case is the one you read up on in preparation.

 

[frogwoman]

can we name and shame ? I do not think he'll be a member of urban.

I've forgotten his name! Peter something I think. To be fair he was a tutor where i worked at the 'college' for rich kids from overseas which essentially existed to scam them out of their money. That was also the job where I was asked to commit fraud and where the boss hid the key in his pocket to stop someone from walking off the job.

 

[killer b]

It's almost as if the Sollley/Mirwich case is the one you read up on in preparation.

I think you're barking up the wrong tree tbh, this guy is for real sadly. plenty of fuckwits just like him about.

 

[rummo]

Being a bastard while a member of the Bastard Party isn't a problem.

Being a bastard while a member of the Not-a-Bastard Party is a problem.

I'm somewhat at a loss as to why this should be so difficult for you to grasp. (Of course, I'm not, I understand exactly why you say the things you say...)

I just find it odd though that while those organisations that are generally regarded as speaking for or representing the British Jewish population have been very vocal in their criticisms of the Labour Party, no such criticism is made of the Tory Party.

And while i understand that Jewish Labour supporters would say 'well those cunts in the fucking Tory Party are all fucking racist twats so what the fuck do you expect?' I wonder why they don't take issue with the one sided approach of those organisations.

 

[danny la rouge]

it would cause cause most people to wonder what was actually going on.

You're no doubt itching to enlighten us. Although, frankly, I'm more interested in Peter and his red trousers.

 

[bimble]

I've forgotten his name! Peter something I think. To be fair he was a tutor where i worked at the 'college' for rich kids from overseas which essentially existed to scam them out of their money. That was also the job where I was asked to commit fraud and where the boss hid the key in his pocket to stop someone from walking off the job.

ok not the same red trousered twat. This one was not a tutor of anything at all apart from maybe his miserable dog.

 

[danny la rouge]

I wonder why they don't take issue with the one sided approach of those organisations.

You keep wondering these things aloud. I wonder why?

 

[frogwoman]

ok not the same red trousered twat. This one was not a tutor of anything at all apart from maybe his miserable dog.

Poor dog