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Labour & Anti-Semitism.

Really piss poor attacks on MIB here. belboid and TopCat you should be fucking ashamed of yourselves. By the way, I think the Labour Party has always been a load of anti working class arse, basically the leftish faction of the capitalist class. Does that make me a Tory as well?
 
Sorry I don't accept that reading at all.
One can think the end the socialists/anarchists for Labour is a good thing without being a Tory.
If any anarchist celebrated n he same way, I'd tell them they were a fucking moron cheering a tory victory as well. Illusions in reformism aren't beaten by a right-wing electoral victory. A 'victory' that will see a worsening of w-c living conditions and further attacks on being able to express solidarity are a defeat for our side, even if we aren't crying over the loss of the likes of Chris Williamson.

But that isn't what he was cheering at all, was it? He was cheering simply the defeat of people the right have labelled as anti-semitic on the base of a single sodding facebook post, he is cheering the victory of those who want to outlaw BDS and saying Israel is an apartheid state.

At best a buffoon, at worst in idiot for the tories.
 
Really piss poor attacks on MIB here. belboid and TopCat you should be fucking ashamed of yourselves. By the way, I think the Labour Party has always been a load of anti working class arse, basically the leftish faction of the capitalist class. Does that make me a Tory as well?
see above. Nothing wrong with being anti-labour, it's how you are that is in question.
 
You belong to a tiny (and now impotent) political alignment belboid. No one needs to convince you of anything. You’re welcome to ignore the thread if it’s causing you this much unchannelable rage
It's this kind of dishonesty that makes you totally ignoreable. You are happy, delighted, to post shit up from right-wing sources, but when they're shown to be shite, you go 'nothing to do with me'. You're just piss and wind, projecting your own frustrations.

Bye.
 
But that isn't what he was cheering at all, was it? He was cheering simply the defeat of people the right have labelled as anti-semitic on the base of a single sodding facebook post, he is cheering the victory of those who want to outlaw BDS and saying Israel is an apartheid state.
Like I said I don't accept that reading, and I'm not the only one.
 
Really piss poor attacks on MIB here. belboid and TopCat you should be fucking ashamed of yourselves. By the way, I think the Labour Party has always been a load of anti working class arse, basically the leftish faction of the capitalist class. Does that make me a Tory as well?
A wanker perhaps? A div? I dont know you enough to tell.
 
But it does a reflect a certain political tradition


That's a serious historical paper ..... no problem .... :oldthumbsup:

Is this why weirdos like Corbyn so much?

... but what's Corbyn, or (most) of his supporters got to do with the subject of it? :confused:
 
I'm not going to argue the point about antisemitism in the Labour Party - what antisemitism there has been has been an utter disgrace :mad:

But the way you referenced Corbyn up there made it read more like an accusdation that he's a Stalinist and a supporter of the use of mental health "diagnoses" to lock people up. It happened for sure -- as I said that's a good and serious paper -- but have you got any evidence that Corbyn ever expressed support for it? :hmm:
 
So on a day when you'd have thought the PLP might be aflame with attacks on Cameron, Osborne and their fellow 1. % ers, instead Progress's 8 point plan to combat alleged LP anti semitism seems to be a much bigger preoccupation for many of the usual suspects .

Don't know if anyone's looked into this deeper than me ( wldnt be hard ) , but so far the evidence I've seen mentioned supporting the idea of a wave of LP anti semitism is 2 / 3 weirdos on Twitter spouting crap, and a resignation from / subsequent investigation of Ox Uni Lab Club that never seems to throw up anything concrete / otherwise .

Anyone else highly suspicious here, on all sorts of fronts ? ( ie : usual attempts to smear opponents of Israeli illegal occupation / settlements/ oppression, - blatant attempt to undermine Corbo / McDonnell / Milne - desperation of Progress to reassert in any way they can - wider, global attempts to delegitimise anti Zionism / # BDS etc etc ) .

From late 80s SWP membership, to now, have personally barely come across anyone I even suspected of anti semitism on the left ( dodgy Cnut on a Palstine march long time ago, some anarchos shut him up,+ a div last year who mentioned ' Zionist Bankers' on Twitter, and then went quiet when challenged ) , does anyone have different experiences / is this in any way more legit than it looks?
I agree with you. I have never seen solid evidence of undeniable full force antisemitism. What can be simpler than naming and shaming? This was a ruse to bring Corbyn down. Labours policies were never discussed in mainstream media and UKIP under Gerald Batten was totally blocked by the mainstream media.
 
I listened very carefully to the TV and radio stations over the past 2 or 3 years. I specifically focused upon the UK modus of reporting the alleged antisemitism in the Labour party. Did anyone notice that UKIP under Gerald Batten instantly disappeared from the mainstream media? literally overnight!!! It does not matter if you like or hate UKIP my point is the power of the MSM in refusing to report/mention them ever again from a give date. So I say, an MSM with this power can easily set the agenda to take Corbyns socialist party down. It is impossible to block Labour, if they could they would.
Did I mention WMDs?? Ooops?? Anyway, regards antisemitism - not once did I hear or see one single MSM station/outlet report an actual solid case of antisemitism. Just as they never report on David Lammy with his racist incitements > FACT. This guy should be in prison.
Can anyone show me a case in the form of this example >>> "Labour MP says JEWS are ......................." Then report the actual occurrence. Its not rocket science. They report cases of Tommy Robinson and many others who literally were arrested and jailed???? for "saying stuff" !!!
 
I listened very carefully to the TV and radio stations over the past 2 or 3 years. I specifically focused upon the UK modus of reporting the alleged antisemitism in the Labour party. Did anyone notice that UKIP under Gerald Batten instantly disappeared from the mainstream media? literally overnight!!! It does not matter if you like or hate UKIP my point is the power of the MSM in refusing to report/mention them ever again from a give date. So I say, an MSM with this power can easily set the agenda to take Corbyns socialist party down. It is impossible to block Labour, if they could they would.
Did I mention WMDs?? Ooops?? Anyway, regards antisemitism - not once did I hear or see one single MSM station/outlet report an actual solid case of antisemitism. Just as they never report on David Lammy with his racist incitements > FACT. This guy should be in prison.
Can anyone show me a case in the form of this example >>> "Labour MP says JEWS are ......................." Then report the actual occurrence. Its not rocket science. They report cases of Tommy Robinson and many others who literally were arrested and jailed???? for "saying stuff" !!!
Fuck off.
 
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