King Charles III's time is up

[Artaxerxes]

Clueless that he'd nominate Andrew, unless the nonce has something on Charles.

Fairly sure it’s legal bumf about lines to the throne

 

[Saunders]

Ah yeah, to stop the monarch’s spouse going mad with the power.

Oh is that the history behind it? All so odd.

 

[danny la rouge]

Oh is that the history behind it? All so odd.

You have to read the whole thing as a vestiges of the workings of a mafia family. If the king’s away, will the Queen have his favourites whacked?

 

[Sue]

You have to read the whole thing as a vestiges of the workings of a mafia family. If the king’s away, will the Queen have his favourites whacked?

 

[Chilli.s]

ne'er do wells

They are actually ne'er have to do wells

 

[Idris2002]

Give him time.

Straight out of the traps:

Prince Andrew continues role which could see him stand in for King Charles

PRINCE Andrew is to continue in his role as Counsellor of State - meaning he can step in for King Charles in the event he is unable to undertake…

www.thenational.scot

 

[danny la rouge]

Straight out of the traps:

Prince Andrew continues role which could see him stand in for King Charles

PRINCE Andrew is to continue in his role as Counsellor of State - meaning he can step in for King Charles in the event he is unable to undertake…

www.thenational.scot

Yes, we have that story on a couple of threads. I was meaning give William time. There’s already stories of his affairs in foreign media. And his falling out with Hazza. There’s going to be more.

 

[killer b]

I suspect the Counsellor of State business is just Peston trolling for clicks on reflection - not to let anyone off the hook, but he's implied that some decision has been made to give the nonce the role, when I don't think that's the case - a decision would need to be made to remove him. Not to let anyone off the hook mind, but Peston has form for that kind of thing

 

[danny la rouge]

I suspect the Counsellor of State business is just Peston trolling for clicks on reflection - not to let anyone off the hook, but he's implied that some decision has been made to give the nonce the role, when I don't think that's the case - a decision would need to be made to remove him. Not to let anyone off the hook mind, but Peston has form for that kind of thing

So the story really is that the palace spin that Andrew was taking a back seat from that type of role was just that: lies.

 

[billy_bob]

So the story really is that the palace spin that Andrew was taking a back seat from that type of role was just that: lies.

I can't remember having seen Andrew in the news for any reason for years before the nonce stuff started to hit the headlines. I bet they changed literally nothing about his schedule and just put out a press release.

 

[muscovyduck]

I can't remember having seen Andrew in the news for any reason for years before the nonce stuff started to hit the headlines. I bet they changed literally nothing about his schedule and just put out a press release.

The more I think about it the angrier I'm getting. Literally all it was was a declaration that the media stop holding him accountable so he could get back to normal

 

[billy_bob]

The more I think about it the angrier I'm getting. Literally all it was was a declaration that the media stop holding him accountable so he could get back to normal

Yep. 'The palace have announced that you are all to stop talking about this.'

 

[Idris2002]

Well now. But how many millions of English lads will have that kind of large philtrum - John Major had one, for example.

 

[rekil]

SF making him look vaguely normal. I'm disgusted that Maskey missed an opportunity to do the 'everyone has 5 minutes to get out' gag.

Spoiler

 

[extra dry]

I expect a short reign 5 years at most before health and other issues come to light

 

[muscovyduck]

I expect a short reign 5 years at most before health and other issues come to light

Hope it's longer, his heir has a better image and PR strategy. the longer Charles stays in the more damage he's going to do to the monarchy.

 

[extra dry]

7 or 8 at a strech

 

[Elpenor]

7 or 8 at a strech

The Kings brother should get a longer stretch than that surely

 

[Artaxerxes]

Hope it's longer, his heir has a better image and PR strategy. the longer Charles stays in the more damage he's going to do to the monarchy.

Mostly he’s quiet and doesn’t do anything which is for sure better PR. But he has his moments.

 

[Dystopiary]

Wrong thread, oops.

 

[Cid]

I suspect the Counsellor of State business is just Peston trolling for clicks on reflection - not to let anyone off the hook, but he's implied that some decision has been made to give the nonce the role, when I don't think that's the case - a decision would need to be made to remove him. Not to let anyone off the hook mind, but Peston has form for that kind of thing

All these issues were decided months/years in advance... It wasn't a case of 'oh shit, hadn't though of Andy'. I had a quick read of the legislation, it is a little ambiguous, but don't think it would be particularly hard to exclude someone. The phrasing is essentially that if a monarch wants the cos, they may appoint them, and when they're appointed they are the next four in line. So I think even within the wording of the act it's arguable you could exclude (and how likely is Prince Nonce to launch a legal battle for the right?). In any case succession is regulated by parliament and a sovereign can be removed by them; presumably a member of the line of succession can too.

 

[emanymton]

Holding up a placard with nothing on is getting a bit risky, will people get arrested for holding up no placard next?

How we all laughed when that was happening in Russia

 

[teqniq]

How we all laughed when that was happening in Russia

I didn't.

 

[killer b]

Interesting piece from Owen Hatherley in Jacobin about Charles' terrible architectural opinions

King Charles Has Some Very Strange Ideas About How Cities Should Look

For many years, Charles Windsor has foisted his opinions about urban design on the British public. The bizarre projects that the new monarch has sponsored, from Dorset to Transylvania, speak volumes about his cloistered and conservative worldview.

jacobin.com

 

[Artaxerxes]

How we all laughed when that was happening in Russia

If you told me twenty years ago you’d be courting arrest for holding up a blank bit of paper in protest… then I’d absolutely believe you.

Curbing the right to protest has been an ongoing project for longer than I’ve been born and Iraq saw some fucking insanity against it that way to many people have memory holed.

 

[SysOut]

succession is regulated by parliament

15 parliaments
Be amusing if they disagreed on these matters,

 

[Epona]

I've paid barely any attention to Charlie (or the monarchy generally tbh) over the years, but over the last couple of days I've seen the clip of him having someone move something on a table because it was an inch further over than he wanted it, and seen him whining about a leaking pen, and I cannot help thinking to myself what a great big grumpy whimpering baby he is coming across as.

 

[PR1Berske]

UEFA instructed clubs not to sing national anthems at games tonight.

Rangers responded:

 

[brogdale]

Probs should be in the Guardian shite thread, but here'll do...

the 'kin what?

 

[mx wcfc]

UEFA instructed clubs not to sing national anthems at games tonight.

Rangers responded:

I sort of like the "sticking to fingers up at UEFA" bit, but, obvs, fuck Rangers and hopefully they'll get a big juicy fine.