But where are you REALLY from? Because you're clearly not really 'one of us'.
King Charles III's time is up
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Raheem
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"Did you ever ask the Queen where her people are from?" would have been an excellent response.
kalidarkone
Bringing YOU round.....
cesare
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cesare
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And Greece?
MickiQ
In My Defence I was left Unsupervised
I don't think I would ask someone what their heritage was on a first casual (and probably only) meeting though, I might take a guess but that is the sort of question you don't ask someone until you get to know them moderately well.
Elpenor
Dancing as fast as I can
I recall a housemate who was half Turkish and half Mauritian being asked that by our south Asian landlord and replying “Romford”. He must have heard the question many times.
I actually find learning about peoples heritage fascinating (as migration is often related to historical events which I’m interested in, and particularly the personal stories that come up in oral histories) but it’s something I always let the other person bring up in conversation first, otherwise it sounds exactly like the transcript above - an interrogation.
I actually find learning about peoples heritage fascinating (as migration is often related to historical events which I’m interested in, and particularly the personal stories that come up in oral histories) but it’s something I always let the other person bring up in conversation first, otherwise it sounds exactly like the transcript above - an interrogation.
weltweit
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Romford, how awful for you
I always remember banging on a random door in the SE of England. The (Asian) woman who answered said something in a very broad Scottish accent and I immediately said 'ooh, where're you from?' and she said 'Dundee' and we ended up having quite a long chat.
Now obviously I could've meant it otherwise but guess my accent kind of tipped her of about what I meant. (It was only later on that it dawned on me she could've taken something else from my question entirely
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weltweit
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Yes, I think that is probably right.
maomao
普費斯
Fuck off.Romford, how awful for you
pseudonarcissus
fluttering and dancing
so apparently this is the widow of Marmaduke Hussey, late of the BBC, and she was tasked with welcoming Megan Markle into Kensington palace...and of course she never experienced any racism.
cesare
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"Where are you from Megan? No, before the USA, where are you from originally?" FFS
Only it wouldn't have been. Because they're from several countries, including the UK (mainly Scotland - they're actually a female line of the Stuart's (who themselves married heavily abroad - primarily from France, and several other very non Germanic places) hence the dynasty changing names first through marriage then in 1917 due to WWI. They passed through what became Germany for a couple of generations after being run out of what became the Czech Republic, and then favoured German and Danish brides for a while). They aren't German. The insistence that they are is fairly racist itself. Here ends today's pedantic lecture.
The excellent response was the one this poor woman actually gave. Remained polite, and followed it up. She resisted the understandable urge to be as equally vile in return, or knock her out, or any of that.
The transcript of the exchange is absolutely horrifying. This bitch just doesn't let up. There are multiple points, one after the other, where anyone and their blind dog could see were clear inflection points that she could've and should've used to immediately profusely apologize for her attitude.
Interesting.
I might tune into KGBNews tonight for a few minutes this evening, to catch their 'hot take'. Surely Dan Wootton will have lots to say about this update on one of his favourite subjects.
RainbowTown
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Or from under what rock they crawled out. They're Lizards, after all. Aren't they?
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Via denmark
My grandfather was once asked at a reception (must've been the late 1930's as I think he was 17 or 18) to turn to show his profile. Being young and naive, he did so, and the man said 'ah yes, I suspected as much' while others tittered away. Suspected as much? 'Yes, that you are a Jew. You are a Jew aren't you?'. He answered - 'quarter Baghdadi Jewish, quarter Italian, quarter British, quarter Swiss, sir - in no particular order of importance'. Some people consider that acceptable introductory greeting at social gatherings. It stuck with him for life.
cesare
shady's dreams ♥
I often forget about the Danish part.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
There's something rotten in the state of our Royal family
cesare
shady's dreams ♥
At its core there's Andrew.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
I don't think so. He's certainly the most egregious example but they're all despicable. Have a look at eg Norman baker's 'and what do you do?'
cesare
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There are others that come close to the Epstein/Ghislaine/Andrew saga?
Aha. A line seems to have been formed by the right wing press and the apologists in it. They're going with 'Lady Hussey is 83 and no 83 year old deserves to be dragged through the mud'.
A couple of obvious things that I hope don't get clouded or lost under that valiant defence. So many important things often do get lost when the line is formed and the advance gets underway like this.
1) As a member of the court, this woman is basically a diplomat in all but name. Her presence can't offend guests.
2) If she's too old to be reprimanded, she's too old to be working.
3) This old cow wasn't actually the victim - at all.
4) It's not even really about her, but about her employer letting her unleash her racist hostility and rudeness, at her leisure, on their (our) premises, towards their guests and whoever else takes her fancy.
This can't be the first time - not at 83 years old. It's the first time someone's gone public with their objection to it.
A couple of obvious things that I hope don't get clouded or lost under that valiant defence. So many important things often do get lost when the line is formed and the advance gets underway like this.
1) As a member of the court, this woman is basically a diplomat in all but name. Her presence can't offend guests.
2) If she's too old to be reprimanded, she's too old to be working.
3) This old cow wasn't actually the victim - at all.
4) It's not even really about her, but about her employer letting her unleash her racist hostility and rudeness, at her leisure, on their (our) premises, towards their guests and whoever else takes her fancy.
This can't be the first time - not at 83 years old. It's the first time someone's gone public with their objection to it.
I wonder if MM will say anything openly about this episode? I see that she was also tasked with 'welcoming' Diana, and getting her up to speed on royal life. And Diana said she was a horrible old bitch who worshipped Charles, while making her miserable and telling her she was doing everything wrong - 'she'd have been lady in waiting to all six of Henry VIII's wives' - so she's been like this since at least 1981. Evidently, she had kitchen staff turfed out for daring to keep Diana company - unseemly. This cuntishness isn't a new thing.
That's two brides over a forty year period that quickly ended up suicidal and alone by their own accounts - coincidentally after Sue took charge of the welcome committee.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
There's a corruption at the heart of the Royal family which is present in every member of that foul family. Sure, in terms of morals Andrew's perhaps the worst of them. But charles is as corrupt as they come, it's just he's better pr people
DaveCinzano
WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!
Is no one else hearing this all in the voice of Alex from Drop The Dead Donkey?
I can't believe she actually moved this woman's hair out of her way. Under what circumstances would you presume to physically rearrange the hair of a person you had just been introduced to? Agog. Even a new hairdresser would chat a little before reaching tentatively forward.
Somewhere high in the Santa Barbara hills, a figure pauses in a luxurious kitchen, feels the sun streaming through the windows, sits in her truth, and allows herself a smile of vindication before turning once more to laugh at the frothing comments about her on the Daily Mail.
Somewhere high in the Santa Barbara hills, a figure pauses in a luxurious kitchen, feels the sun streaming through the windows, sits in her truth, and allows herself a smile of vindication before turning once more to laugh at the frothing comments about her on the Daily Mail.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
what’s an 83 year old doing still working anyway? She can’t be short of a few bob.
Loved Petronela Wyatt telling Radio 4 that saying, doing and thinking racist things didn’t make one a racist
Loved Petronela Wyatt telling Radio 4 that saying, doing and thinking racist things didn’t make one a racist
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