Keir Starmer's time is up

[krtek a houby]

Euan Philipps's gang is doing two things here: first, they conflate Jews with Israel

There's too much of those gangs around, unfortunately.

 

[Pickman's model]

Hmmmm this could be a very good thing against the far right but against far left protesters?

Far-right riots: Keir Starmer announces new violent disorder unit — The Guardian

PM and police agree plan to boost intelligence gathering as social media firms told to clamp down on misinformation

apple.news

yeh you'll lead the cheers for state action against the far right. and tbh you'll lead the cheers when it comes to state action against the far left.

 

[nino_savatte]

Hmmmm this could be a very good thing against the far right but against far left protesters?

Far-right riots: Keir Starmer announces new violent disorder unit — The Guardian

PM and police agree plan to boost intelligence gathering as social media firms told to clamp down on misinformation

apple.news

Are "far left" protesters torching libraries and Citizens' Advice Bureaux? Maybe people of colour should just lie down and allow ourselves to be kicked to death by football casuals who are high on lager and cocaine, yes?

 

[elbows]

The BBC started to do their thing in regards underlying causes of the recent riots. Warning: this article contains traces of Margaret Hodge.

The article authors seem to know what sort of things should actually be done over a very long period of time, but they also know that isnt the economic agenda of this Labour government and so we end up with some much hollower platitudes about listening to people locally.

I mostly mention the article because of this one rather telling factoid that, to the authors credit, they did bother to draw our attention to:

Regional inequality has hardly changed over decades, according to a report this week from the Resolution Foundation.

“Poor places are tending to remain poor and rich places remain rich,” its author Charlie McCurdy told me.

“The one place that has made progress on regional equality is Germany. But that’s taken three decades and spending the equivalent of the UK’s furlough scheme each year.”

Keir Starmer will be judged on response to causes of UK riots

Tackling the root causes of unrest - even deciding what they are - is set to be a crucial test for the new government.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Pickman's model]

The BBC started to do their thing in regards underlying causes of the recent riots. Warning: this article contains traces of Margaret Hodge.

The article authors seem to know what sort of things should actually be done over a very long period of time, but they also know that isnt the economic agenda of this Labour government and so we end up with some much hollower platitudes about listening to people locally.

I mostly mention the article because of this one rather telling factoid that, to the authors credit, they did bother to draw our attention to:

Keir Starmer will be judged on response to causes of UK riots

Tackling the root causes of unrest - even deciding what they are - is set to be a crucial test for the new government.

www.bbc.co.uk

Is that Margaret hodge the paedos' friend?

 

[Pickman's model]

I reckon shammer's fucked himself with the spending plans. That there's a great ton of money available is clear from the voluntary subsidy ukraine's getting, £3bn a year. Reckon he thinks his marvellous majority will protect him from everything, but the riots of the past week will be as nothing in comparison to the wave of anger that'll erupt this year or, perhaps more likely, next. Seems really unlikely he'll be able to bump up defence spending to the level necessary for when push comes to shove in the Pacific or eastern med. He's angered a fuck ton of people with the winter fuel allowance cut. And sure there's more non-austerity austerity to come. tbh any big riots this year or next summer will really fuck the prisons as you can't empty ~1000 places until the current crop of rioters depart for pastures new. Wonder if he'll sack Reeves in the new year in a bid to deflect unpopularity

 

[two sheds]

Well this just confirms where the responsibility for all this lies

"Violent riots across the UK since Keir Starmer became PM ..."​

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[inva]

Well this just confirms where the responsibility for all this lies

"Violent riots across the UK since Keir Starmer became PM ..."​

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Labour has played its part in stoking anti immigrant hatred that is for sure.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Funny how we didn't hear so much about doing something to address the underlying causes of the 2011 riots.

Of course, massive amounts need to be done to increase equality across the board. But not because these racists have revealed something about the state of the country.

 

[weltweit]

I detect some glee in Starmer. Law and order, I can do this, I used to be a prosecutor!

I wonder if he will be quite as at home with the various nuanced subjects, subjects to which the "lock them up" response is not appropriate?

 

[Puddy_Tat]

I detect some glee in Starmer. Law and order, I can do this, I used to be a prosecutor!

I wonder if he will be quite as at home with the various nuanced subjects, subjects to which the "lock them up" response is not appropriate?

to many right wingers (and i have a feeling that will include starmer) there's never a time when 'lock them up' is not appropriate...

 

[The39thStep]

Any port in a storm

 

[Pickman's model]

Any port in a storm


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I thought we'd heard the last of the foul coffey

 

[Everything Goes]

Any port in a storm


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I wouldn't trust her to run a bath, she was utterly hopeless.

 

[hitmouse]

Bit old now, but I've only just got around to reading this profile of Labour Together:

Behind Labour Together

Since running Keir Starmer's fraudulent leadership campaign, Labour Together has raised staggering sums of money from exploitative businessmen to staff the offices of MPs — shaping party policy in the interests of its mega-rich donors.

tribunemag.co.uk

 

[Serene]

He will likely start fining people who dont use coasters on the downing street committee tables.

 

[krtek a houby]

He will likely start fining people who dont use coasters on the downing street committee tables.

Not only do politicians not keep their promises

This is the last time I come on here.

 

[two sheds]

This sounds enticing:

‘Look out for fireworks’: power struggle rumours between No 10 big beasts persist

Downing Street officials deny friction between Sue Gray and Morgan McSweeney, but negative briefings continue

www.theguardian.com

it has taken less than a month for negative, personal briefings from within Downing Street to emerge in the press, suggesting all is not entirely well in the working relationship between the two big beasts close to the prime minister: Sue Gray, the prime minister’s chief of staff, and Morgan McSweeney, Labour’s election strategy guru.

... after the election, gossip began to seep out of No 10, showing that a power struggle was under way. In the early days, a source claimed: “Morgan’s desk will be outside the No 10 study and he will be in and out of Keir’s office more than Sue. But look out for the fireworks.”


Just over a week later, it was reported that Gray had twice moved McSweeney’s desk further away from the prime minister’s office. It was also reported that Simon Case, the cabinet secretary, had refused to authorise Gray’s request for McSweeney to be denied access to a secure computer system unless he heard it from Starmer himself.

No 10 and Whitehall officials have vehemently rejected claims McSweeney had been blocked from getting security briefings, noting if someone really needed access they would get it.

Whitehall sources say Gray’s “centralisation” of government has left some Labour advisers frustrated and concerned.

One Labour government source said: “There has been a massive centralisation under Sue Gray. Under the last government four people controlled what went into the PM’s box and now it’s one. Things have slowed down. She’s put herself into a position where she is extraordinarily powerful.

“There’s a suspicion that she’s making a lot of decisions on the PM’s behalf and that he wouldn’t necessarily agree with them. She’s in a position where his successes are going to be attributed to her but she’s overly vulnerable when things go wrong.”

They added that the reshuffle “taking so long was a problem” and that was down to Gray micromanaging personnel, having to sign off who was getting every job and which special advisers (spads) would be appointed.

Gray also raised eyebrows after appearing to be the only person allowed to take a Labour party staffer, her personal assistant, into the civil service, while blocking others from bringing in similar hires from the Southside HQ. However, Whitehall officials have noted such appointments are allowed as long as the position is extremely junior and for a fixed-term contract.

“Most special advisers do not want to fuck with her,” one insider said, as they had been put on strict four-month probation periods. “They’re all desperate to prove their loyalty and worth to her as she is big on experience over politics.”

... Another government Labour source noted that while Gray was “good at what she does”, and “extremely likable”, the current position was untenable. “She’s worse than [former Boris Johnson adviser Dominic] Cummings but gets a free pass because she’s so kind and personable, while he was horrible and disliked by pretty much everyone.

... “She’s been ringing up ministers offering them jobs, and ensuring she also appoints Spads so they will be reporting back to her. But these are all political relationships. This might end up becoming quite dysfunctional as she’ll have a lot of power, but since it will be around her it will cause problems. Things aren’t run like this ordinarily.”

Other Labour 'sources' say it's all bullshit

McSweeney was the one who decided Labour would have no more truck with any form of democracy for Labour party members wasn't he? Would be a real shame if he got shunted out like he shunted Corbyn out.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Not only do politicians not keep their promises

Can you stop doing this please? We don't need you to police the boards for us.

 

[krtek a houby]

Can you stop doing this please? We don't need you to police the boards for us.

Like your policing of the troll on the other thread? Which I actually agreed with.

This is your silly game, not mine. You're the one posturing about policing to fuck.

For the record, was making a light hearted comparison about empty promises.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

I wasn't policing him . I was arguing with him.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

But this is kind of the problem. Constantly posting what people have said on other threads, often months or years ago, is really tiresome.

 

[krtek a houby]

I wasn't policing him . I was arguing with him.

You were policing him, and now you're policing me.

Thread is about Starmer and his reprehensible politics, with the occasional light hearted comments.

 

[krtek a houby]

But this is kind of the problem. Constantly posting what people have said on other threads, often months or years ago, is really tiresome.

Put me on ignore, then, copper, and quit the derail.

 

[teqniq]

Good article here:

After the riots, Keir Starmer should tell us the truth about our country. This is why he won't | Nesrine Malik

The violence exposed racist narratives based on lies. Yet where is the counter-argument, asks Guardian columnist Nesrine Malik

www.theguardian.com

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Put me on ignore, then, copper, and quit the derail.

Show some self-awareness, krtek. You constantly pull people up. And it's fucking tiresome. Pickman's model will like any post on here that is attacking me. He's a wanker like that. Might tell you something.

 

[ska invita]

Keir Starmer.. don't hear about him so much these days

 

[DotCommunist]

Last I heard he was laughing it up with fascist meloni over in italy.

e2a checked, it was at blenheim palace but fuck them anyway.

 

[krtek a houby]

Show some self-awareness, krtek. You constantly pull people up. And it's fucking tiresome. Pickman's model will like any post on here that is attacking me. He's a wanker like that. Might tell you something.

Quoting me from two whole days ago. You could have done better with all that time. Tedious.

 

[Pickman's model]

Show some self-awareness, krtek. You constantly pull people up. And it's fucking tiresome. Pickman's model will like any post on here that is attacking me. He's a wanker like that. Might tell you something.

to be fair i've 'liked' a great number of posts that have had nothing to do with you too, and even 'liked' one or two posts you've made. sure there's lots of posts having a pop at you i've missed but i don't have to go looking for them