Ah yes, that. I forgot that.
Keir Starmer's time is up
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That's what makes them so good at it.
steeplejack
trapped lbw for a duck
In present form, absolutely none. If you want to vote for shit right wing politics, go to the origin, rather than the tribute act.
A tribute act to the most corrupt far right Tory government in living memory. The Labour Party, ladies and gentlemen.
Puddy_Tat
naturally fluffy
the point?
a harmless alternative to the Conservatives, which could then be allowed to take office now and then when the Conservatives fell out of favour with the public.
“If the Labour Party could be bullied or persuaded to denounce its Marxists, the media - having tasted blood - would demand next that it expelled all its Socialist and reunited the remaining Labour Party with the SDP to form a harmless alternative to the Conservatives, which could then be allowed to take office now and then when the Conservatives fell out of favour with the public. Thus British Capitalism, it is argued, will be made safe forever, and socialism would be squeezed of the National agenda. But if such a strategy were to succeed… it would in fact profoundly endanger British society. For it would open up the danger of a swing to the far-right, as we have seen in Europe over the last 50 years.”
Tony Benn
a harmless alternative to the Conservatives, which could then be allowed to take office now and then when the Conservatives fell out of favour with the public.
“If the Labour Party could be bullied or persuaded to denounce its Marxists, the media - having tasted blood - would demand next that it expelled all its Socialist and reunited the remaining Labour Party with the SDP to form a harmless alternative to the Conservatives, which could then be allowed to take office now and then when the Conservatives fell out of favour with the public. Thus British Capitalism, it is argued, will be made safe forever, and socialism would be squeezed of the National agenda. But if such a strategy were to succeed… it would in fact profoundly endanger British society. For it would open up the danger of a swing to the far-right, as we have seen in Europe over the last 50 years.”
Tony Benn
Woah, that quote... Prescient.
ska invita
back on the other side
this needs to happen one way or another one day - Right wing Labour and the LibDems exist within one party
the coalition of the Labour party has to end
only two ways I can see it happening, 1: proportional representation or 2: the unions forcing a split of some description
Probably helps to identify this as a 1982 quote, for full context
splonkydoo
Well-Known Member
Owen Jones on twitter has been saying that it is just down to incompetence of a reckless party - because some source told him - but then won't tell anyone else what that going on actually was.
Raheem
Well-Known Member
Which "it" are we talking about? (Not criticising your post, but interested to know).
splonkydoo
Well-Known Member
The Liverpool fiasco
Raheem
Well-Known Member
I can imagine incompetence being part of it. Rothery seems to acknowledge something sub-par about the selection process. But there's no plausible way that's the beginning and end of the story.
splonkydoo
Well-Known Member
Oh I agree, I was just highlighting because I thought it was a pretty strange, and smug, way to react.
Raheem
Well-Known Member
Yes, I wasn't imagining you were saying OJ's take was the right one.
Jeff Robinson
Marxist-Lentilist: Jackboots and Jackfruit
Revisionist Starmer Clique excoriated:
Jeff Robinson
Marxist-Lentilist: Jackboots and Jackfruit
It has degenerated (read reverted back) into a social imperialist party under the rule of that renegade Starmer and his cronies
Jeff Robinson
Marxist-Lentilist: Jackboots and Jackfruit
Capitalist roader Starmer outflanked to the left by the Boris regime!
He isn't trying to win people (red wall etc.) over to Labour, he's trying to make Labour "respectable" again, which is a very different thing, it's a strategy for dealing with the media. And what do I know? It may just work. Maybe eg The Sun won't be hostile to Labour at the next general election. But they aren't going to be supporting Labour because it isn't its own project, it's destined to be the main anti-Tory protest vote and nothing more but that's not even real bourgeois respectability. These post-Brexit and (hopefully soon to be) post-Covid times don't call for a harmless caretaker technocratic government.
NoXion
Craicy the Squirrel
Good joke. Even if the Labour party became indistinguishable from the Tories, the Sun would still attack them.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
The S*N has supported labour for loads of elections - including quite recent ones.
ska invita
back on the other side
not necessarily, they backed Blair, but it takes some serious getting on the knees to get the blessing
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
Jeff Robinson
Marxist-Lentilist: Jackboots and Jackfruit
Seriously considering voting spunking cock next election at this rate.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
2005 is relatively recent.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Jeff Robinson
Marxist-Lentilist: Jackboots and Jackfruit
Could there be any more disturbing front cover than an infinite regress of a grinning Tony Blair opening the Sun with his face on the front?
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