Keir Starmer's time is up

[killer b]

Lol sure it was.

 

[killer b]

fwiw the 'would you be friends with a tory' discourse is among the most vacuous political shit of the last 5 years, so it's no surprise to see you're still chewing it over.

 

[sleaterkinney]

fwiw the 'would you be friends with a tory' discourse is among the most vacuous political shit of the last 5 years, so it's no surprise to see you're still chewing it over.

I would happily leave it behind.

 

[killer b]

it's in your hands. no-one else raised it.

 

[sleaterkinney]

it's in your hands. no-one else raised it.

I meant in the sense i would be happy to leave the hard left in labour behind.

 

[Mr Moose]

She can have whatever views she likes and have whatever friends she likes, but that kind of attitude is not going to get people coming back to Labour, it’s probably why Starmer felt the need to come down like he did.

I think that’s trivial in the scheme of things.

But today she’s walking out of the NEC in support of a former leader who she found toxic on the doorstep. It doesn’t suggest anything is moving on for her cohort in Labour and while Starmer feels he has to favour Hodge over Corbyn it certainly isn’t moving on in any other cohort either.

 

[Smokeandsteam]

But today she’s walking out of the NEC in support of a former leader

Thought she walked out over the issue of who the NEC chair would be? Totally irrelevant outside of the bubble yes, but over Corbyn no.

 

[sleaterkinney]

Thought she walked out over the issue of who the NEC chair would be? Totally irrelevant outside of the bubble yes, but over Corbyn no.

The bloke who was going to be chair backed Corbyn.

 

[Smokeandsteam]

The bloke who was going to be chair backed Corbyn.

Mr Moose seemed to be suggesting the walk out was in ‘support of the former leader’. It wasn’t.

 

[killer b]

It's over left-wing representation in the controlling committee of the party, not Corbyn per se. The news just has it as CORBYN BACKERS because they won't let it go either.

 

[belboid]

They walked out because of the way they were being marginalised in general, using the change in process for choosing the chair (a very significant role for choosing what gets discussed and how) as the specific breaking point.

The idea Starmer could win any election without those members and voters who were inspired by Corbyn is laughable.

 

[ska invita]

(I'd boot anyone who had Kerry Anne Mendoza along to speak out of the party if I had the power too tbf. Pretty reasonable. )

Whats the case file against Kerry? Im not up to speed on these things

 

[sleaterkinney]

The idea Starmer could win any election without those members and voters who were inspired by Corbyn is laughable.

Corbyn himself never managed to.

 

[killer b]

Whats the case file against Kerry? Im not up to speed on these things

it's mostly here: The Canary, views and discussion...

 

[steveseagull]

Laura Pidcock, who lost her seat for the first time since the '50s with a 13% swing and who couldn't be friends with a tory was involved, why don't this lot just fuck off?. So much time and energy wasted.

You centrists are pretty authoritarian aren't you. Glad to see all pretence of a broad church has been suddenly dropped since Sir Keith Stalin took over on a bed of lies to the membership .

Perhaps your idiotic second referendum Brexit position caused that seat to fall , but accepting that would mean accepting some responsibility which you people seem to be unable to do.

 

[steveseagull]

As for time wasted, Starmer did not have to start this factional war on Corbyn. It was either his decision or he was bullied into it by your right wing faction and Tory trolls like the Board of Deputies.

But aye, you keep on cheering on this utterly hopeless clown's war on the left whilst the Tories are robbing the country.

 

[ska invita]

I dont know much about Labour, but i presume this is quite unusual?

 

[killer b]

No, its pretty usual.

 

[steveseagull]

So here we go, Starmer admits his Brexit policy cost seats in the North (via the Sun lol) which comes hot off the heals of his admittance that his war on Corbyn is factional (via a threatening letter he sent to the Young Labour chair)

The man is a shambles

 

[ska invita]

The Sun have reported it - its highly unlikely that he has briefed the Sun on this.
He did give a speech saying he'll never talk to the Sun - so expect him to do so ahead of the next election

 

[Pickman's model]

So here we go, Starmer admits his Brexit policy cost seats in the North (via the Sun lol) which comes hot off the heals of his admittance that his war on Corbyn is factional (via a threatening letter he sent to the Young Labour chair)

The man is a shambles

Strong and stable my arse

 

[Pickman's model]

The Sun have reported it - its highly unlikely that he has briefed the Sun on this.
He did give a speech saying he'll never talk to the Sun - so expect him to do so ahead of the next election

Yeh he doesn't need to talk to the sun while he has aides to do it for him

 

[sleaterkinney]

Of course he will back the deal and let the tories own the mess that follows, he's been open about that for a long while .

 

[Pickman's model]

Of course he will back the deal and let the tories own the mess that follows, he's been open about that for a long while .

Her majesty's loyal opposition

 

[steveseagull]

Of course he will back the deal and let the tories own the mess that follows, he's been open about that for a long while .

He is going to own a fair bit of the mess himself considering his stupid Brexit position when he was the shambolic Shadow Brexit Secretary.

 

[steveseagull]

This might be time to tell the country that it is a bad deal and vote against it, instead of being complicit in a Tory Brexit but that would involve having some balls and competence and having some free time from waging factional war on anyone left of the Board of Deputies.

 

[Pickman's model]

Of course he will back the deal and let the tories own the mess that follows, he's been open about that for a long while .

Yeh but he'll back the deal, which everyone knows is worse than the deal weak and wobbly Theresa may had

 

[steveseagull]

From the silence of the abusive FBPE cult, it has become quite clear that their main aim was to oppose Corbyn and not Brexit.

I may be wrong, maybe we will see some FBPE heads explode in the coming days. But I would be surprised.

 

[Pickman's model]

From the silence of the abusive FBPE cult, it has become quite clear that their main aim was to oppose Corbyn and not Brexit.

I maybe wrong, maybe we will see some FBPE heads explode in the coming days. But I would be surprised.

Snipers are on roof tops as we type

 

[steveseagull]

Perhaps Starmer will end up sending an aggressive letter to the FBPE types threatening them into silence, like he did with Young Labour.

At that point, there cannot be many demographics he has not thoroughly pissed off.