Keir Starmer's time is up
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stethoscope
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Aren't they all just so fucking ridiculous 
PR1Berske
Alligator in chains by the park gates.
I suspect this rules out joining Corbyn 's grouping.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Honestly? WTFK?
PR1Berske
Alligator in chains by the park gates.
Unless Corbyn is about to surprise us all with deep seated prejudice against transgender people, I suspect I'm in the right for once.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Maybe? But I suppose I was really thinking about Shockat Adam, Adnan Hussain, Ayoub Khan and Iqbal Mohamed; I've had a cursory peek and I've not really seen much evidence of pro-trans sentiments. You never know, she might find herself in like-minded company? Stranger things, and all that.
PR1Berske
Alligator in chains by the park gates.
I'm wary of assuming positions from silence. I take the point though.
PTK
Paul Kegan
That is simply lefty doom-mongering. The Sun will not explode. It is not large enough to become a supernova. And that is one of the things for which we have to thank the Labour government.
We cannot expect things to get better after the sun becomes a red giant and engulfs the Earth, and to say that we can is simply to indulge in childish fantasies.
The rate of expansion of the observable cosmos is increasing, so the scientists tell us, and it looks like the fate of it will be a "heat death", when there will be no activity at all. I happen to know that Keir Starmer is personally, viscerally, committed to ensuring that things will get better for hard working families before the heat death of the observable cosmos.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
I think it became apparent to her just after the point where she was guaranteed a £91,346 salary for the next 5 years.
hitmouse
music obfuscation technology
Cherie and Euan also have a proper empire of buy-to-let flats - nearly 30 in Greater Manchester as of 2016.Mention of the famous 'human rights lawyer' Cherie Booth, got me wondering what she's been up to lately. Amongst other things, her wiki page has her lobbying Hilary Clinton for the Qatari royal family, advising the Maldives government in their struggles with an imprisoned former president and, in you couldn't make it up mode, acting as 'Ethics Adviser' to the Israeli security/spyware NSO group.
Cherie Blair - Wikipedia
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For a moment I briefly got confused there and thought that image meant that Duffield was following Brogdale rather than Linehan. But yes, I think there is a bit of quiet rivalry between Unison and the TERFs over who are the real inheritors of the suffragette colours.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
So, human rights Qatari supporting, dictator advising, arms company supporting landlord. Mind, that paled into insignificance in the irony stakes when they made her feller the middle east peace envoy.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
You wonder what the Blair's chat about when they are having their tea:
'Alright love, what you been up to today, you were at that JP Morgan Chase weren't you?'
- Aye, but then I did a bit of PR with the butcher of Khazakstan. I'm sorting out that Israel-Hezbollah malarky tomorrow. What about you, been doing any human rights?
'Oh aye, loads. Sorted out the Emir of Qatar's human rights and then made sure that Israeli cyber intelligence lot were acting all ethical'.
- Chips?
'yeah, it's summat to do with chips I think'
- No, for tea.
'Alright love, what you been up to today, you were at that JP Morgan Chase weren't you?'
- Aye, but then I did a bit of PR with the butcher of Khazakstan. I'm sorting out that Israel-Hezbollah malarky tomorrow. What about you, been doing any human rights?
'Oh aye, loads. Sorted out the Emir of Qatar's human rights and then made sure that Israeli cyber intelligence lot were acting all ethical'.
- Chips?
'yeah, it's summat to do with chips I think'
- No, for tea.
two sheds
Least noticed poster 2007
True enough, although I wonder what would have happened if the tories had just got in & joined forces with reform so we had a proper far right tory government with some headbanging tory and reform ministers. Particularly how the Farage riots would have panned out if Farage had been in there cheerleading for them.
twistedAM
Left Of The Dial
Hmm, not sure many backbenchers saw the winter heating allowance, increase of student tuition fees and all the sleaze coming along so soon. She can always take the whip back when there's a new PM.
If we’re speculating on an alternative reality in which people voted for what they wanted to happen rather than what they didn’t want to happen, it seems a shame to restrict your imagination to that resulting in Tories + Reform. Do you really think that the majority of the country would have wanted Tories + Reform?
two sheds
Least noticed poster 2007
The alternative reality (or "possibility" as we could also call it) of the tories getting in was only prevented by people voting labour. I think it's quite worth speculating that a tory party returned to power would have moved much further to the right, particularly if they'd elected a new leader. We saw that Reform picked up seats - a hung parliament with Reform holding the balance of power was another alternative reality made quite possible by our voting system.
Another alternative reality would be if Trump wins in November - then I think we'd have seen some fairly close collaboration between the two governments and politics here would have lurched to the right.
People are quite plausibly speculating that we'll get a far-right government at the end of Starmer's term unless there's some major change in direction. I'm speculating that we could already have had a far-right government this term.
Another alternative reality would be if Trump wins in November - then I think we'd have seen some fairly close collaboration between the two governments and politics here would have lurched to the right.
People are quite plausibly speculating that we'll get a far-right government at the end of Starmer's term unless there's some major change in direction. I'm speculating that we could already have had a far-right government this term.
mojo pixy
...שלא נמצא בשמאל
And potentially also by people in other constituencies where Labour couldn't win (eg mine),
I can't help wondering what we'll need to
two sheds
Least noticed poster 2007
Indeed. The far right getting in is a distinct possibility though.
Eta: I'm not defending Starmer I think he's a shithead. I just think the "let's blame labour voters" is just as daft as "let's blame Brexit voters" or "let's blame Remain voters" .
Eta: I'm not defending Starmer I think he's a shithead. I just think the "let's blame labour voters" is just as daft as "let's blame Brexit voters" or "let's blame Remain voters" .
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brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
It's possible that Duffield was naive enough not to foresee what the much advertised 'hard choices' would actually entail, but that doesn't explain why, when given the opportunity to oppose the needless, vindictive cut, she literally did nothing.
mojo pixy
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ffs, so this really is just grandstanding and virtue signalling then.
(I'm sure her own 24k worth of rent claims over the last year or so despite her home only being an hour from London are totally necessary and unhypocritical, I mean after all who could possibly commute from Kent every day??!)
(I'm sure her own 24k worth of rent claims over the last year or so despite her home only being an hour from London are totally necessary and unhypocritical, I mean after all who could possibly commute from Kent every day??!)
Happy Tree
maagilises metsas
The thing that gets me is how cheap these politicians are. Is it really such a lure to be given a few freebies that they could easily afford themselves?
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
I suspect the real lure lies in the fact that these "freebies" are small down-payments or tasters of the riches that open up to them once they get around the other side of the revolving door to financialised capital....as long as they continue to do the 'right things' and govern in the interests of their once and future paymasters.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
these fripperies and bungs are infuriating as is the response 'because I deserve them, its all declared' but the real meat is the 4mill from a cayman island based hedge fund. I'll remind everyone that for a few yrs the party financed itself by members subs and union money so its a viable funding method, starmer and co chose to be in hock to private finance because they are thoroughgoing cunts.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
That party funding choice is also a very good example of prefigurative politics.
Dystopiary
putting up a hook to hang my hopes upon
- Has never voted in a major vote about paying higher benefits over longer periods for those unable to work due to illness or disability
- Has never voted on raising welfare benefits at least in line with prices
- Has never voted in a major vote about a reduction in spending on welfare benefits
But...
Consistently voted against measures to reduce tax avoidance
Voting record - Rosie Duffield MP, Canterbury
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