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Looks like Starmer has had a very good NATO summit. Very smart to bring so many different ministers with him to get face time with their counterparts too.

Very pleased to see a full throated assurance that our suppprt for Ukraine will not change.

Very good start on the global stage.
 
Looks like Starmer has had a very good NATO summit. Very smart to bring so many different ministers with him to get face time with their counterparts too.

Very pleased to see a full throated assurance that our suppprt for Ukraine will not change.

Very good start on the global stage.
very consistent in that it changes nothing, just more continuity on all fronts
 
There have been a couple of promising announcements by Starmer hero of the British stasi but magic grandpa as usual makes good and relevant points:


'It's not a good start': Jeremy Corbyn on Keir Starmer as PM

Speaking in an exclusive interview with The National, the former Labour leader said: “Ask me next year.”

Corbyn added, however, that he didn’t think Starmer has made a good start. ...

“I think his initial statements on the lack of a commitment on council housing, the lack of a commitment on child poverty and the lack of any clear commitment on a ceasefire in Gaza are not a good start.”

... he said that the Labour voters who put Starmer in Downing Street had “clear expectations of what they want to see delivered”, including more money for public services and improvements to the NHS. ...

Among people in general, 55% expected Labour to increase spending on public services in the next year, while 57% expected the party to improve the NHS.

Corbyn echoed that sentiment, saying that Labour “have got to deliver”.

He added that if there isn’t a “significant improvement” in the living standards of the poorest people in the UK, this government “is going to be in trouble in a very short time”.
 
Looks like Starmer has had a very good NATO summit. Very smart to bring so many different ministers with him to get face time with their counterparts too.

Very pleased to see a full throated assurance that our suppprt for Ukraine will not change.

Very good start on the global stage.
Shammer's but a walking shadow, a poor player who struts and frets his hour on the global stage and then is heard no more. His speeches are told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing. As Shakespeare would have said if he'd been approached for a comment on shammer
 
I was watching bits of what ex MP Thangam Debbonaire said on Novara and Owen Jones.

Reminds me of my MP Helen Hayes. Socially liberal. Centre but not full on right wing labour.

My MP also could not bring themselves to vote for a ceasefire.

My MP took position ( that last minute Labour leadership offered to those MP who were so torn and upset ) to not vote for the "divisive" SNP proposal but publicly support a ceasefire. Despite ceasefire being popular. Divisive because it would upset the likes of JLM etc.

Thangam then complains ( in similar ways to other labour MP who lost over this ) that those who opposed her were an unholy alliance whose success undermines democracy.

That is her case the Green party and Reform. Both forces that lie to mislead voters.

This in her view shows how reasonable decent democracy loving people like her are being undermined by divisive elements in society who latch on to issues like Gaza.

Which of course mainstream Labour like her are VERY concerned about.

And her only criticism of Labour is that it did not put its message across ( that's you Starmer) about how grown up and reasonable it is on Israel / Palestine.

Yes their are these populist forces undermining our democracy.

The sense of entitlement that one should vote Labour and disparagement of those who support Palestinians comes across as though this is common sense.

And those who support Palestinians are on a par with Reform in her view.

Looks to me Starmer tactic now in power with big majority is not to give any credence to people who support Palestinians. Not to engage with Muslim voters or other voters who voted Green because of Labour on Gaza. Basically to get on with governing and ignore the "fleas"
 
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I was watching bits of what ex MP Thangam Debbonaire said on Novara and Owen Jones.

Reminds me of my MP Helen Hayes. Socially liberal. Centre but not full on right wing labour.

My MP also could not bring themselves to vote for a ceasefire.

My MP took position ( that last minute Labour leadership offered to those MP who were so torn and upset ) to not vote for the "divisive" SNP proposal but publicly support a ceasefire. Despite ceasefire being popular. Divisive because it would upset the likes of JLM etc.

Thangam then complains ( in similar ways to other labour MP who lost over this ) that those who opposed her were an unholy alliance whose success undermines democracy.

That is her case the Green party and Reform. Both forces that lie to mislead voters.

This in her view shows how reasonable decent democracy loving people like her are being undermined by divisive elements in society who latch on to issues like Gaza.

Which of course mainstream Labour like her are VERY concerned about.

And her only criticism of Labour is that it did not put its message across ( that's you Starmer) about how grown up and reasonable it is on Israel / Palestine.

Yes their are these populist forces undermining our democracy.

The sense of entitlement that one should vote Labour and disparagement of those who support Palestinians comes across as though this is common sense.

And those who support Palestinians are on a par with Reform in her view.

Looks to me Starmer tactic now in power with big majority is not to give any credence to people who support Palestinians. Not to engage with Muslim voters or other voters who voted Green because of Labour on Gaza. Basically to get on with governing and ignore the "fleas"
Thangam tells on herself when she says she knew she was going to lose in November. Course you did mate. She's just another whiny self entitled loser; didn't clap the person she lost to. Showed very little grace and is obviously bitter. Conflating the green campaign with refuk is just horrible.
 
Thangam tells on herself when she says she knew she was going to lose in November. Course you did mate. She's just another whiny self entitled loser; didn't clap the person she lost to. Showed very little grace and is obviously bitter. Conflating the green campaign with refuk is just horrible.

She's been more of a twat about her defeat than any of the defenestrated tories tbh.
 
Thangham is yesterdays news and never in all her entitled ranting did she frighten me as much as those on the tory/faragist right who are determined to ride the tiger. Which never goes well. At least not for me and thee. The bad grace with which she lost encapsulates the arrogance. Good riddance, times are hard and friends are few so au revoir and fuck you etc
 
Now this is a shock, Starmer's gone back on a commitment made before an election :eek:


Britain will not withdraw its objection to the International Criminal Court (ICC) prosecutor's application for arrest warrants targeting Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and his defence minister, Yoav Gallant, according to an Israeli news outlet.

The newspaper Maariv said British Foreign Secretary David Lammy had given assurances that the UK will maintain its objection to the application that was initially raised by the Conservative government in Downing Street.

Netanyahu and Gallant are accused of crimes against humanity and war crimes by ICC prosecutor Karim Khan.

The Hamas leader in Gaza Yahya Sinwar, its military wing's commander-in-chief Mohammed Diab Ibrahim al-Masri, better known as Mohammed Deif, and its political leader Ismail Haniyeh were also subject to arrest warrant applications.

The applications must be approved by a panel of ICC judges and it is at this stage that the UK has lodged its objection.
 
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