Keir Starmer's time is up

[hitmouse]

The latest great insight from Starmer and Rayner, writing in the Times:

Keir Starmer and Angela Rayner vow to revive levelling up

The Labour leader and his deputy praised Boris Johnson’s policy, but accuse Rishi Sunak of ‘killing’ it and leaving regions to languish

www.thetimes.co.uk

Sir Keir Starmer has praised Boris Johnson’s vision of levelling up Britain as he accused Rishi Sunak of killing the flagship policy.

The Labour leader will launch his party’s local election campaign on Thursday by pledging to tackle the “alienation and powerlessness” across much of Britain.

In an article for The Times, Starmer and Angela Rayner, the deputy Labour leader, writing together for the first time, said that under Johnson the Tories were “starting to understand” the issues behind regional inequality.

Here's a paywall-busted version of the wretched thing. Not actually that interesting, the relevant part is:

It’s understandable that working people might have become disillusioned or cynical, because one of the biggest tragedies of the past 14 years is the sense that things can’t change. But they can and they will.
The Tories started to understand this with the levelling-up white paper. Much of the analysis in it was good. And there were parts that talked a good game about how Britain needed to build up all parts of the country.
But the policy was killed at birth by the then chancellor, Rishi Sunak, who refused to back it; the chaos and corruption of the Tory government under Johnson, and a failure to give regions the levers to make it happen.

Damn that Rishi Sunak, refusing to back Johnson's visionary policies.

 

[Puddy_Tat]

:facepaw:

and the whole tory 'levelling up' was always going to be bullshit - bash london for voting for the wrong colour mayor (his rosette, i mean, of course), throw a few shinies at marginal 'red wall' seats but mostly in a way their chums could make money out of it, and otherwise business as usual.

 

[AnnO'Neemus]

Labours horseshoe theory

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I don't understand what you mean by Labour's horseshoe theory. Are you referring to the thing about, For want of a nail, the horseshoe was lost, for want of a horseshoe, the horse was lost blah blah blah the battle was lost for the want of a horseshoe nail?

 

[Artaxerxes]

I don't understand what you mean by Labour's horseshoe theory. Are you referring to the thing about, For want of a nail, the horseshoe was lost, for want of a horseshoe, the horse was lost blah blah blah the battle was lost for the want of a horseshoe nail?

No.

Horeshoe theory is that politics moves around in an arc from Left to Right and those at the extreme ends of the spectrum have more in common than they’d like to admit


Certainly both extreme left and right do have an unhealthy interest in anime waifus

 

[DotCommunist]

its not taken seriously by anyone except internet arguers and should really be the horseshoe hypothesis.

 

[Elpenor]

Horseshoe theory is beloved of centrist dads I think

 

[Kevbad the Bad]

I don't understand what you mean by Labour's horseshoe theory. Are you referring to the thing about, For want of a nail, the horseshoe was lost, for want of a horseshoe, the horse was lost blah blah blah the battle was lost for the want of a horseshoe nail?

I prefer your version.

 

[brogdale]

If I’m reading The39thStep correctly, I think the horseshoe reference was fairly non- serious and related just to this example of the left’s ‘sneering’ about the right, being called out by the right and then the right sneering about the the privilege of the left .... or summat

 

[Serge Forward]

I don't understand what you mean by Labour's horseshoe theory. Are you referring to the thing about, For want of a nail, the horseshoe was lost, for want of a horseshoe, the horse was lost blah blah blah the battle was lost for the want of a horseshoe nail?

That's the nail theory.

 

[PR1Berske]

 

[two sheds]

Shame he wasn't that honest when he was standing to be Labour Party Leader.

 

[Whagwan]

Horseshoe theory is beloved of centrist dads I think

Liberalism: Science Accurate.

 

[brogdale]

Liberalism: Science Accurate.
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Mis-spelt Horse Shit

 

[PTK]

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Starmer is continuing the tradition of Blair, of betraying your followers before you obtain office, rather than afterwards. Mind you, it would have been more honest to have got in the betrayals before he became Leader, but then he would not have had the opportunity to betray his pledges. If only all those who took part in the "chicken coup" in 2016 had been de-selected!

 

[two sheds]

Starmer is continuing the tradition of Blair, of betraying your followers before you obtain office, rather than afterwards. Mind you, it would have been more honest to have got in the betrayals before he became Leader, but then he would not have had the opportunity to betray his pledges. If only all those who took part in the "chicken coup" in 2016 had been de-selected!

Anyone trying that with Starmer would be out of the party.

 

[hitmouse]

That's the nail theory.

I know it's Easter and all, but I dunno if we need to turn this thread into yet another bloody triclavianism debate.

 

[Pickman's model]

I know it's Easter and all, but I dunno if we need to turn this thread into yet another bloody triclavianism debate.

some people have too much time on their hands if they think that's really a big deal

 

[Serge Forward]

some people have too much time on their hands if they think that's really a big deal

Indeed. Now on to the far more important business of pin heads and dancing angels

 

[Rob Ray]

Shame he wasn't that honest when he was standing to be Labour Party Leader.

In fairness he's never said he won't make promises fully intending to not deliver on them.

 

[Rob Ray]

Liberalism: Science Accurate.
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I do enjoy executing non-believers while trying to establish a new Caliphate. Not entirely a fan of the destroying ancient architecture thing though, maybe that's the difference.

(Editorial: hang on what's postmodernism doing between socialism and communism?)

 

[Pickman's model]

Indeed. Now on to the far more important business of pin heads and dancing angels

This triclavianism is a bit Harry callahan, this is a roman hammer, probably the most powerful hammer in the known world. But in all the excitement I've forgotten if I've hammered three nails or four. So the question you have to answer is, do you feel lucky, messiah?

 

[Wilf]

Liberalism: Science Accurate.
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Hadn't realised I was nearly an Islamist.

 

[Puddy_Tat]

and i thought anti-vaccine was more of a far right thing.

or have i just proved horseshit theory is correct?

 

[hitmouse]

I do enjoy executing non-believers while trying to establish a new Caliphate. Not entirely a fan of the destroying ancient architecture thing though, maybe that's the difference.

(Editorial: hang on what's postmodernism doing between socialism and communism?)

The more you look at it the more completely arbitrary the whole thing is. Socialism, postmodernism and altruism among the many steps you have to travel through to get from "classic feminism" to "third wave feminism".

 

[Whagwan]

Catholicism is the opposite of Environmentalism I don't make the rules

 

[The39thStep]

To the Finland station

 

[krtek a houby]

To the Finland station

Business as usual

 

[two sheds]

We would absolutely stop this dishonest practice of giving honours to people who've funded the tory party.

We'd instead give honours to people who've funded the labour party.

 

[ska invita]

Sir Keir Rodney Starmer KCB KC MP wants to preserve the honours system? SHOCKED

 

[Karl Masks]

Wasn't Lammy specifically among those agreeing that the Lords should be scrapped? Or is he just ok with honours when it's a shiny biscuit wrapper for some teacher who rescued a dog from a bigger dog?