Keir Starmer's time is up

[krtek a houby]

Listen to the voice of humanity

Anyone who supports Spanner, sorry, Starmer, especially now, might have a tricky relationship with humanity.

The man is a careerist coward who is destroying his own party.

 

[wow]

Anyone who supports Spanner, sorry, Starmer, especially now, might have a tricky relationship with humanity.

The man is a careerist coward who is destroying his own party.

Do you support anyone?

 

[krtek a houby]

Did you know Keir Starmer’s wife, Lady Victoria, is Jewish?
A world of difference from the prejudice of Jeremy Corbyn.

Jeremy Corbyn isn't prejudiced.

 

[Larry O'Hara]

Did you know Keir Starmer’s wife, Lady Victoria, is Jewish?
A world of difference from the prejudice of Jeremy Corbyn.

Are you serious? If you really think Corbyn was anti-semitic read Asa Winstanleys excellent book on the matter. Unless of course you are prejudiced against facts: like the % of Jews expelled from Labour for alleged anti-semitism is far higher than any other group…

 

[krtek a houby]

Do you support anyone?

Have a soft spot for Corbyn. First time there was hope in quite a while. However brief that was.

Not forgetting also, he was one of the few politicians along with Livingstone who was not demonising Sinn Fein.

Ironically, we now have the Unionist bloc keeping SF out of leading Stormont and the FF/FG alliance keeping them from forming a government in Ireland.

Could imagine that makes Starmer feel all good. Although, then again, he's not very forthcoming on the occupied counties.


Basically, anyone but you, Spanner.

 

[Wilf]

The 2023 review proceeded on different criteria than the 6th (2020) review.
The ultimate changes to constituency boundaries due benefit the Tories but only to a relatively limited degree.
It is less a case in increasing the number of votes Labour on average to return an MP, and more that there is an increase in constituencies in the south of England, at the expense of Wales, Scotland and the North.

EDIT: Two decent, if overtaken by events, pieces on boundary changes and voting efficiency from UK Polling Report (which I've just seen has been updated and renewed). 1, 2.

Ta.

 

[PR1Berske]

Ta.

I started a thread about the Reviews ages ago, I think some of the links may have broken though you'll get the gist

Boundary review 2021-2023

The 2023 Periodic Review of Westminster constituencies is set to start this Spring in time for the next general election, which should be in 2024. (Note that the government has tabled the Fixed-term Parliaments Act 2011 (Repeal) Bill which would undo the Coalition's Fixed-Term parliament system...

www.urban75.net

 

[PR1Berske]

 

[Dystopiary]

Keir Starmer's time is up

 

[teqniq]

Hahaha:

 

[Raheem]

This is very true, but Labour are not developing Thatcherite policies because they are listening to Tory voters. They are listening to Tory voters because this will tell them to develop Thatcherite policies.

 

[redsquirrel]

While the Thatcher statement was clearly a bit of signalling to voters (both those that lean Tory and to those on the left) it is mistake to think that the neoliberal policies of Labour come about just because they want to attract swing voters.

The Labour Party advance the policies of Thatcherism because that is their political philosophy, they support the market, they support capital, not because of voters but in spite of them. After all neoliberalism is not a popular political philosophy, most people do not want privatisation of public services, indeed they want the nationalisation of more sectors.

Stamer's politics are not the result of him being hemmed in by the public. While there is little doubt he is an unprincipled shit desperate for power, his natural politics is liberalism.

 

[steeplejack]

Shur Kieth getting it tight in Glasgow over his pisspoor politics on the Middle East. Not since Iain Gray fled into a Subway in Glasgow has a Labour leader had a more humiliating welcome to the city. Sobering viewing for those hoping for a good Labour performance in Scotland whenever the next election comes.










He looks distinctly uncomfortable. I'm expecting a trembling bottom-lip statement about "democracy being difficult sometimes" in response. Get it right up the snidey wee wank.

(sorry for all the twitter links but hopefully they work for most of you...)

 

[Sue]

I'd forgotten Iain Grey ever existed tbh. Although IIRC, he was way less objectionable than Murphy etc.

 

[steeplejack]

Most people have forgotten Iain Gray to be fair, here is the original incident that is being referred to:

 

[WhyLikeThis]

I’m not a violent person but it would do starmer the world of good if someone gave him a hiding.

 

[Johnny Vodka]

Oh ffs, finally Labour (and Starmer) catch up... probably because they realise the issue could lose them some votes. If they had genuine concern, they would have said this ages ago. Some of this stuff was happening prior to October.

Labour steps up criticism of ‘intolerable’ killings in Gaza

Shadow foreign secretary David Lammy slams Israeli ‘death and destruction’ and urges UK travel ban on violent settlers

www.theguardian.com

 

[brogdale]

Oh ffs, finally Labour (and Starmer) catch up... probably because they realise the issue could lose them some votes. If they had genuine concern, they would have said this ages ago. Some of this stuff was happening prior to October.

Labour steps up criticism of ‘intolerable’ killings in Gaza

Shadow foreign secretary David Lammy slams Israeli ‘death and destruction’ and urges UK travel ban on violent settlers

www.theguardian.com

spineless cunts

 

[eatmorecheese]

Oh ffs, finally Labour (and Starmer) catch up... probably because they realise the issue could lose them some votes. If they had genuine concern, they would have said this ages ago. Some of this stuff was happening prior to October.

Labour steps up criticism of ‘intolerable’ killings in Gaza

Shadow foreign secretary David Lammy slams Israeli ‘death and destruction’ and urges UK travel ban on violent settlers

www.theguardian.com

Yeah. So Starmer does what he always does. Checks which way the wind is blowing, sends out one of his juniors (Lammy in this case), wait to see what the gibbons in the press say and then changes his position. Meh

 

[_Russ_]

I might have already said this here.......a few months ago I was extolling the virtues of tactical voting and how it would be daft not to vote labour as its the only way to get the ultra-cunts out.
I apologise profusely..its still the only way to get them out but, well FFS its a fucking quandary alright

 

[PTK]

I might have already said this here.......a few months ago I was extolling the virtues of tactical voting and how it would be daft not to vote labour as its the only way to get the ultra-cunts out.
I apologise profusely..its still the only way to get them out but, well FFS its a fucking quandary alright

If we could have a mass movement that would refuse to vote Labour if it did not change its policies, we might have some leverage, but we do not have such a movement.

 

[Johnny Vodka]

I know this is Starmer's thread, but here's Lammy's Guardian piece.

Labour will oppose expulsions of Palestinians and bar violent settlers from UK | David Lammy

Britain must pressure Israel to halt the theft of land in the West Bank. Settlers are killing hopes for a two-state solution and Sunak’s government does nothing, writes shadow foreign secretary David Lammy

www.theguardian.com

 

[two sheds]

Have we had this yet? The repeated urge to go back on his deeply held beliefs is just impossible to resist.

Keir Starmer insists he’s no Thatcher ‘fan boy’

‘She did terrible things – particularly here in Scotland’, Labour leader tells Glasgow audience

www.independent.co.uk

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

He's just really bad at it isn't he. He's not even a good conman - he doesn't inspire confidence for a start.

 

[Serge Forward]

Have we had this yet? The repeated urge to go back on his deeply held beliefs is just impossible to resist.

Keir Starmer insists he’s no Thatcher ‘fan boy’

‘She did terrible things – particularly here in Scotland’, Labour leader tells Glasgow audience

www.independent.co.uk

Starmer:

"The point I was trying to make in a piece that we penned last week was that there are some political leaders who have a mission, a plan, that they implement,” he told the audience.

So Thatcher was just an example of someone with a plan that they implemented then. Could just as easily have used Hitler or Pol Pot as examples.

What a massive twat.

 

[Pickman's model]

Starmer:

So Thatcher was just an example of someone with a plan that they implemented then. Could just as easily have used Hitler or Pol Pot as examples.

What a massive twat.

Should have gone for trotsky, stalin or Lenin whose five year plans have become a staple of bourgeois democratic planning

 

[Elpenor]

Starmer:

So Thatcher was just an example of someone with a plan that they implemented then. Could just as easily have used Hitler or Pol Pot as examples.

What a massive twat.

Brings to mind this quote from your avatar

 

[two sheds]

Should have gone for trotsky, stalin or Lenin whose five year plans have become a staple of bourgeois democratic planning

the group that took over the labour party GLU and has been purging party members called itself the stasi so perhaps he's modeling himself on the East Germans.

#LabourLeaks: The Labour Party's GLU Created A 'new Stasi System To Spy On Members' - Labour Heartlands

#LabourLeaks #LabourReport

labourheartlands.com

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

Starmer:

So Thatcher was just an example of someone with a plan that they implemented then. Could just as easily have used Hitler or Pol Pot as examples.

What a massive twat.

I think what really stands out about it, is that if he represents anything (and he tries not to) it's naked opportunism and never, ever having a plan.

 

[two sheds]

I think what really stands out about it, is that if he represents anything (and he tries not to) it's naked opportunism and never, ever having a plan.

and after that he represents the opposite of what he previously represented