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What did Jess Phillips ever do to make herself stand out from all the other MPs here? Some of the reporting about this vote only mentions her! Id be a bit annoyed if i was one of the other 56 mps. One line said 'the most high profile MP to resign is Jess Phillips'...I vaguely know her from being against Corbyn but has she done anything else that makes her some kind of big name?
 
What did Jess Phillips ever do to make herself stand out from all the other MPs here? Some of the reporting about this vote only mentions her! Id be a bit annoyed if i was one of the other 56 mps. One line said 'the most high profile MP to resign is Jess Phillips'...I vaguely know her from being against Corbyn but has she done anything else that makes her some kind of big name?


She’s a massive self serving shit who plays the media well or at least gets them to notice her


Even by politician standards
 
What did Jess Phillips ever do to make herself stand out from all the other MPs here? Some of the reporting about this vote only mentions her! Id be a bit annoyed if i was one of the other 56 mps. One line said 'the most high profile MP to resign is Jess Phillips'...I vaguely know her from being against Corbyn but has she done anything else that makes her some kind of big name?
She's written several books that went down brilliantly with the type of self regarding 'centrist' who believes themselves to be quite radical but thought everything in the UK was great until after the Brexit vote. There aren't many of these people, but nearly all of them live in London and work in the media.
 
I don't really understand why Starmer didn't make it a vote of conscience, surely that would have avoided any problems.

Apart from him being an utter control freak of course.
Also he is looking for excuses to prevent "insufficiently loyal" MPs being candidates at the general election, breaking the whip is something he can use against some of them over the next few months. Assume he is purely in politics for the money and has absolutely no sense of responsibility then it kind of makes sense, with that as the base assumption actually winning the general election isn't particularly important to him, the difference in salary between PM and leader of the opposition is trivial compared to what he is raking in from wealthy donors. I'm not claiming it is necessarily how he is thinking, but if it is everything he is doing makes sense. Alternatively he may just be a privileged self important idiot. Either way he needs to be booted out of Parliament.
 
Also he is looking for excuses to prevent "insufficiently loyal" MPs being candidates at the general election, breaking the whip is something he can use against some of them over the next few months. Assume he is purely in politics for the money and has absolutely no sense of responsibility then it kind of makes sense, with that as the base assumption actually winning the general election isn't particularly important to him, the difference in salary between PM and leader of the opposition is trivial compared to what he is raking in from wealthy donors. I'm not claiming it is necessarily how he is thinking, but if it is everything he is doing makes sense. Alternatively he may just be a privileged self important idiot. Either way he needs to be booted out of Parliament.

Not money but power. That's his key motivator IMO, being important and powerful. He was probably bullied as a kid and this is his chance to show 'em.

We can see already that it's certainly not about improving the country for its citizens.
 
Also he is looking for excuses to prevent "insufficiently loyal" MPs being candidates at the general election, breaking the whip is something he can use against some of them over the next few months. Assume he is purely in politics for the money
That's quite an assumption.

and has absolutely no sense of responsibility then it kind of makes sense, with that as the base assumption actually winning the general election isn't particularly important to him,
And that.

the difference in salary between PM and leader of the opposition is trivial compared to what he is raking in from wealthy donors. I'm not claiming it is necessarily how he is thinking, but if it is everything he is doing makes sense. Alternatively he may just be a privileged self important idiot. Either way he needs to be booted out of Parliament.
He's a KC and could presumably make a fair amount of money doing that. And what's the money he's raking in from wealthy donors? Is that going in his pocket (is that even legal?) or is it going to running his office, for specific campaigns etc?

I mean I don't like him either but this is nonsense.
 
I don't really understand why Starmer didn't make it a vote of conscience, surely that would have avoided any problems.

Apart from him being an utter control freak of course.
Because he is "committed to rooting out anti semitism." He has to support Israel, no matter what, or get the same stuff that Corbyn did.

The Labour Party has "moved on", his position has to be different to that monster.

If he's going to be PM he has to keep good relations with the US.

Lots of reasons.
 
I don't think it makes any sense to think he's in it for the money tbh. How much would he have been raking in as a KC? For me it's similar to Sunak and plenty of others, it's fundamentally an ego trip not some sort of financial scam.
Let's put it this way. His estimated "net worth" has increased from £3 million in 2015 to just under £8 million now. So his overall gain in net worth during his time in politics is larger than than over his entire career in law.
 
She’s a massive self serving shit who plays the media well or at least gets them to notice her


Even by politician standards
TBF, we may hate her for being deep as a puddle, but that is the skillset that Labour is desperately lacking in right now. Someone has to manipulate the media that are generally hostile to even Starmer's Labour Party. Think of her like a shit Mandelson. Horrible, but they have a job and they're good at it. I don't know why the media play nicey-nicey with her, but it's a useful skill/feature.
 
I don't really understand why Starmer didn't make it a vote of conscience, surely that would have avoided any problems.

Apart from him being an utter control freak of course.
I think he was trying to show that Labour are a united party or will be as opposed to a party in chaos like that other lot. And blew it.
 
Let's put it this way. His estimated "net worth" has increased from £3 million in 2015 to just under £8 million now. So his overall gain in net worth during his time in politics is larger than than over his entire career in law.

Well I'm sceptical of these numbers but even taking them at face value I think this misses the point of how rich people get richer. What is his net worth? It's not going to what he has in the bank on the whole, it'll be his no doubt massive house plus whatever else he's invested all that money in which compounds over time. With all that plus a massive salary how much would he have made as a QC/KC in that time? Five million doesn't seem unlikely.


ETA: I think what it means to have a Labour leader with those interests is an important question btw.
 
TBF, we may hate her for being deep as a puddle, but that is the skillset that Labour is desperately lacking in right now. Someone has to manipulate the media that are generally hostile to even Starmer's Labour Party. Think of her like a shit Mandelson. Horrible, but they have a job and they're good at it. I don't know why the media play nicey-nicey with her, but it's a useful skill/feature.
I don't like Jess Phillips or what she stands for, but I think she's pretty smart at politics. And I'm sure she will have calculated that this little rebellion will not only cement her hold on her seat, it will also add a veneer of faux-radicalism and appearance of being principled, which will do her no harm at all in a future leadership election, labour party members being pretty gullible.
 
I don't like Jess Phillips or what she stands for, but I think she's pretty smart at politics. And I'm sure she will have calculated that this little rebellion will not only cement her hold on her seat, it will also add a veneer of faux-radicalism and appearance of being principled, which will do her no harm at all in a future leadership election, labour party members being pretty gullible.
Nutshell. She is a skilful opportunist
 
Well I'm sceptical of these numbers but even taking them at face value I think this misses the point of how rich people get richer. What is his net worth? It's not going to what he has in the bank on the whole, it'll be his no doubt massive house plus whatever else he's invested all that money in which compounds over time. With all that plus a massive salary how much would he have made as a QC/KC in that time? Five million doesn't seem unlikely.


ETA: I think what it means to have a Labour leader with those interests is an important question btw.
10 acres of land in Surrey and a house in Kentish Town are part of it. However the increase in value of those is just 30% over that period.
 
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