Keir Starmer's time is up
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ruffneck23
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Have ever heard more unhappy applause?
gentlegreen
I hummus, therefore I am ...
Jesus wept ...
Can they get a new leader in time ?
Can they get a new leader in time ?
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ruffneck23
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Karl Masks
Birds Angel Delight
Jeremy Christ blocking aspiration
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They could, but they all believe in Starmervision.
Of course the quality of that leader would be the real issue. Even though I dislike her politics, Yvette Cooper has been pretty good at exposing Braverman at the despatch box (as far as anyone can in the current media climate I suppose).
Chz
Stark Raving Sane
I've not any more faith in Cooper than I do in Starmer. The bottom fell out of the barrel a long time ago and we're scraping the pavement under it.
Karl Masks
Birds Angel Delight
I'm not so sure. THough I don't doubt he would share that sentiment. But they won't ditch Starmer until after an election, if even thenIt'll be streeting next, stick a tenner on it
Dystopiary
putting up a hook to hang my hopes upon
Labour have been showing us who they are for a long time. Things aren't going to magically get better once Starmer's gone.
emanymton
A cat politely sat on the flaming gardener.
ruffneck23
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We have a tops of the cops authoritarian , knight of the realm leader of the opposition, it’s almost like the proles are being punished for daring to go a little bit socialist
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you've as much political nous as the man who does the racing tips on the toady programme
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shammer will be gone tho
Two things strike me as noteworthy about this.
1) Starmer politics like the lawyer he is.
2) There is no mention of Corbyn's response to the EHRC report which was the impetus for withdrawing the whip in the first place. Blocking a former leader from standing as an MP for losing a general election is unprecedented I believe. The right's hegemony is complete enough to do this sort of thing without any pretences now.
andysays
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Shammer is persuaded he can win if he eradicates corbyn from the record. But his poll lead isn't down to him but down to disgust with the tories. In his campaign I wouldn't be surprised if shammer manages to seize defeat from the jaws of victory as he is a particularly odious person. If rayner or dare i say corbyn was leader now, they'd enjoy higher poll ratings
Puddy_Tat
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brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Cuts to scene of a thinly populated former donkey field in leafy Oxted....from the stage comes the annoying, sanctimonious nasal tones of the tool-maker's son...well, alright...well alright....
Starmer's strategy, as I see it, is to not give conservative reaction anything to react against allowing would be Tory voters to stay at home in protest at the state of their party of preference. Corbyn got the Labour vote out but also I think the Tory vote.
Though, Starmer is dreadful of course even from a soft social democratic pov.
Puddy_Tat
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On 69% v the tories' 23as in 'would be 20 percent ahead in the polls with a better leader' ?
teqniq
DisMembered
Yes fair enough but if you search twitter it's not the only one speculating that Payne may be parachuted into Islington North
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