Keir Starmer's time is up

[_Russ_]

I do wonder how many here will be voting 'Labour' next election whilst being fully aware they aren't actually Labour?.
I will be

 

[agricola]

I do wonder how many here will be voting 'Labour' next election whilst being fully aware they aren't actually Labour?.
I will be

Fortunately I like my local MP, so will be voting for her rather than the party she represents.

 

[AmateurAgitator]

I see Starmer is pledging to crack down on 'anti-social behaviour' ie. those who are working class people ofcourse.

 

[AmateurAgitator]

I do wonder how many here will be voting 'Labour' next election whilst being fully aware they aren't actually Labour?.
I will be

You'll get what you vote for, and hey, maybe some surprises too.

 

[Serge Forward]

They'll be voting along to that Chris de Burgh tune, "Tory in Red"

 

[hash tag]

Fortunately I like my local MP, so will be voting for her rather than the party she represents.

I like my neighbouring MP, Dr Rosina Allin-Khan but not sure she is much of a socialist. Not so keen on my local MP.

 

[maomao]

My MP is a slimy little rapist so I'll end up voting against him.

 

[Serge Forward]

Liz fucking Kendall

 

[Karl Masks]

My local MP is John Penrose whose wife pissed away 37bn of our money. But i'd vote for him if he could tell me how to switch off these firework effects!




I stll wouldn't

 

[AmateurAgitator]

This is a good piece by the ACG on Starmer's Labour Party, I recommend that people read it :

The real face of Labour - Anarchist Communist Group

Wes Streeting, shadow health secretary and MP for Ilford North has spelled out how Labour will operate if elected to power at the next election. In an interview with the Tory paper the Daily Telegraph he emphasised that a future Labour administration would combat “hostile” unions in the health...

www.anarchistcommunism.org

 

[teqniq]

^^^ this is not telling us anything that was not already known/reported elsewhere.

 

[Serge Forward]

It can't be repeated enough, given the number of lefts who continue to see Labour as the only "realistic" response and will end up falling into line with Starmer come election day.

 

[teqniq]

Complete lack of imagination here, or more likely the unwillingness to upset the status quo, such as it is:

Labour will not open ‘big government chequebook’, Starmer to say

Party leader’s new year speech to promise ‘national renewal’ if elected but stress role of private sector too

www.theguardian.com

 

[Puddy_Tat]

"nothing better is possible. we're marginally less shit than the tories. vote for us"

meh

 

[SpookyFrank]

Complete lack of imagination here, or more likely the unwillingness to upset the status quo, such as it is:

Labour will not open ‘big government chequebook’, Starmer to say

Party leader’s new year speech to promise ‘national renewal’ if elected but stress role of private sector too

www.theguardian.com

So, privatisation or privatisation. Democracy ladies and gentlemen

 

[Pickman's model]

.

 

[Cid]

Starmer is a step too far for me. US I'd vote dem under current situation, but nah, can't justify Starmer - barely a rizzla silver between him and the tories.

 

[Chz]

Quite lackluster this morning, I thought. But miles better than what Sunak had to say yesterday, and that's the only thing that really matters.

 

[brogdale]

Go ahead socialist; make my day..

 

[oryx]

I read somewhere recently that Starmer is a Turing test in reverse. Which amused me.

 

[_Russ_]

It can't be repeated enough, given the number of lefts who continue to see Labour as the only "realistic" response and will end up falling into line with Starmer come election day.

My eyes are wide open to what Starmer's leadership means and see it as a measurably better alternative to the Tories staying in Power, Im interested to hear of an alternative vote that would result in unseating the Tories
(presuming you want them out as top priority)

 

[_Russ_]

"nothing better is possible. we're marginally less shit than the tories. vote for us"

meh

That's pretty much the case as I see it, but hold out hope that there are enough back benchers with spines to to bring the party back to its name if even only slightly, another Tory Government is simply not something I ever want to see again

 

[steveseagull]

The ideal outcome here is Starmer is short of a majority and the Lib Dems go into coalition and force him to adopt PR and temper his more far right extremes and his authoritarianism. Then Labour can go to the dust.

 

[lazythursday]

The ideal outcome here is Starmer is short of a majority and the Lib Dems go into coalition and force him to adopt PR and temper his more far right extremes and his authoritarianism. Then Labour can go to the dust.

Indeed. Much as there is something viscerally satisfying about a landslide, all those awful Tory personalities swept away, it would actually be a terrible result for anyone who wants to see genuine change.

 

[andysays]

The ideal outcome here is Starmer is short of a majority and the Lib Dems go into coalition and force him to adopt PR and temper his more far right extremes and his authoritarianism. Then Labour can go to the dust.

It's like 2010 never happened...

 

[Sue]

The ideal outcome here is Starmer is short of a majority and the Lib Dems go into coalition and force him to adopt PR and temper his more far right extremes and his authoritarianism. Then Labour can go to the dust.

I have never seen a situation so dismal that a Lib Dem couldn't make it worse.

 

[Pickman's model]

The ideal outcome here is Starmer is short of a majority and the Lib Dems go into coalition and force him to adopt PR and temper his more far right extremes and his authoritarianism. Then Labour can go to the dust.

the ideal situation is that shammer dies of a heart attack on election night

 

[Puddy_Tat]

the ideal situation is that shammer dies of a heart attack on election night

bit unimaginative

i was hoping more for him being savaged by a gang of rabid alpacas

 

[The39thStep]

The ideal outcome here is Starmer is short of a majority and the Lib Dems go into coalition and force him to adopt PR and temper his more far right extremes and his authoritarianism. Then Labour can go to the dust.

Surely there must be a more ideal outcome or ambition than PR and the fucking Lib Dems?

 

[Pickman's model]

bit unimaginative

i was hoping more for him being savaged by a gang of rabid alpacas

that's def on the cards in somewhere like islington