Keir Starmer's time is up

[Part 2]

It's on YouTube

 

[SpookyFrank]

It's on YouTube

Already posted above

 

[ska invita]

Kapoowwwe

 

[steveseagull]

Anyone seen or heard from the fuckwit today or has he gone missing in action again?

 

[SpookyFrank]

I've picked clagnuts out my arsehole that would be polling better than Starmer is against this clown show of a tory party.

 

[Cid]

I mean who are Redfield & Wilton strategies, who commissioned them, what question was asked etc?

But regardless, the fucker is astoundingly good at being shit. It really is quite an achievement.

 

[Elpenor]

Why has Truss been boosted? That’s more of an interesting question to me I think (even if this is the wrong thread!)

Early honeymoon period plus the not Johnson factor? Lots of non-political media exposure with the royal funeral sideshow? People feeling more patriotic after death of the queen and wanting to support the person in the chair? The energy bills fudge?

 

[SysOut]

I mean who are Redfield & Wilton strategies, who commissioned them, what question was asked etc?

But regardless, the fucker is astoundingly good at being shit. It really is quite an achievement.

https://twitter.com/RedfieldWilton

Not sure that Labour would want to win the next election becuase they'll just find themselves in the same position as Wilson's first government, which had to deal with an inherited debt ("13 years of Tory misrule") forcing him to impose austerity measures.
Harold Wilson - Wikipedia

In practice, however, events derailed much of the initial optimism. Upon coming to power, the government was informed that they had inherited an exceptionally large deficit of £800 million on Britain's external balance of trade. This partly reflected the preceding government's expansive fiscal policy in the run-up to the 1964 election. Immediately the pound came under enormous pressure, and many economists advocated devaluation of the pound in response

 

[Karl Masks]

They have dragged themselves down to the level of the vermin...

... so its yellow peril or mildew party

Unquestionably. I'm done with them. Free up some of my most tired brain cells. Now I can worry more about the Tories

 

[steveseagull]

Unquestionably. I'm done with them. Free up some of my most tired brain cells. Now I can worry more about the Tories

I was done with them about six months into Starmer's reign to be honest. No regrets.

 

[Cid]

https://twitter.com/RedfieldWilton

Not sure that Labour would want to win the next election becuase they'll just find themselves in the same position as Wilson's first government, which had to deal with an inherited debt ("13 years of Tory misrule") forcing him to impose austerity measures.
Harold Wilson - Wikipedia

Yes, well, if you wait 13 years of Tory misrule just turns into 17 years of Tory misrule.

 

[tim]

I have come across Luke Stanger before online. This documentary seems to suggest he is Akehurst's hired thug which explains why he was protected from the disciplinary system

Luke Stanger came across as not the pleasantest of people. However, the section about the ultra-abusive and threatening messages to Damian McCarthy, the dodgy lawyer from Brighton, seemed to imply a link between the messages and Luke Stanger but gave no evidence of such a link.

The documentary confirmed my long-held belief that Labour Party internal politics are toxic and I assume the Tories, Liberals, and SNP are much the same. Still, whatever the reality, it's safer being a Labour Party activist than a worker on a building site in Qatar. Al Jazeera is owned by and represents the interests of the Qatari ruling family and so is unlikely to so thoroughly investigate the latter issue.

Link to article about MCarthy's dodginess gleefully being posted by those on the Labour Right keen to rebut all allegations Public access barrister disbarred for second time

 

[steveseagull]

The leaked data comprises 500 gigabytes of documents, emails, video and audio files from the Labour Party dating from 1998 to 2021.

#TheLabourFiles: MP Reed provided endorsement for Stanger

Steve Reed OBE, the MP for Croydon North and a prime mover in the notorious “Chicken Coup” attempt to unseat Jeremy Corbyn as Labour leader in 2016, has been revealed as one of the pa…

insidecroydon.com

 

[Pickman's model]

They have dragged themselves down to the level of the vermin...

... so its yellow peril or mildew party

Golden shower doesn't have the dubious connotations of yellow peril

 

[SpookyFrank]

Luke Stanger came across as not the pleasantest of people. However, the section about the ultra-abusive and threatening messages to Damian McCarthy, the dodgy lawyer from Brighton, seemed to imply a link between the messages and Luke Stanger but gave no evidence of such a link.

Yes it was far from clear what was going on with McCarthy.

 

[teqniq]

Full episode of last night's documentary here. Warning. It is grim.

Well that made for fairly depressing viewing. Labour is as I have pretty much long suspected, irredeemable as it stands anyway. Whither now?

 

[JimW]

Calling for people's growth. Don't attack your opponent's whackjob strategy, legitimate it by saying it's the right thing but needs doing differently.

 

[brogdale]

Calling for people's growth. Don't attack your opponent's whackjob strategy, legitimate it by saying it's the right thing but needs doing differently.

Starmer would have been a perfect fit for a LD minister in Cameron's coalition administration.

 

[Karl Masks]

Well that made for fairly depressing viewing. Labour is as I have pretty much long suspected, irredeemable as it stands anyway. Whither now?

I just finished watching it.

I found it oddly cathartic, as, I suspect, did some of those participating (except perhaps that poor guy who was reduced to tears by it all).

 

[Karl Masks]

Starmer would have been a perfect fit for a LD minister in Cameron's coalition administration.

He was, given that he was DPP and was happily throwing the book at rioting kids

 

[steveseagull]

Episode 2 about to air. It is covering antisemitism. it is going to be grim

 

[emanymton]

https://twitter.com/RedfieldWilton

Not sure that Labour would want to win the next election becuase they'll just find themselves in the same position as Wilson's first government, which had to deal with an inherited debt ("13 years of Tory misrule") forcing him to impose austerity measures.
Harold Wilson - Wikipedia

I don't think any forcing will be necessary.

 

[Jeff Robinson]

This messaging is just perfect, compares so favourably to Labour's response to the barbaric Truss clique:

 

[Karl Masks]

Ben kuntish?

 

[Artaxerxes]

It’s what’s so galling about the whole thing, Corbyn was stuck in the 70s for the most part but at least he tried to sell a different way of life by invigorating the Labour campaigners and youth. Starmer seems frozen in the headlights. No imagination at all and no vision of a way to a different or better world. Just some strange mid-2000s ideas about sticking to the centre

Lynchs anger is justified and should be worked with but no sign of Labour doing it. We don’t get an elequent union leader often and it would be nice to have the party of Labour take advantage

 

[brogdale]

The absolute fucking state of the LP conference setting...

 

[Pickman's model]

The absolute fucking state of the LP conference setting...

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Pity the keynote speaker

 

[steveseagull]

Nothing i did not really know in that episode. Hoffman and Millet being chums with the EDL and other far right groups, But it did give voices to left wing Jews that have been hounded out of the party and the stress the disiplinary section were under.

 

[steveseagull]

Mondays episode looks at Starmers hiarachy of racism which could be damning for him

 

[steveseagull]

Though one very harrowing bit was when a eldeerley lady was expelled for antisemitism, she died very shortly after of a stroke, There staff were laughing their heads off when they heard.

Grim.