Keir Starmer's time is up

[Jeff Robinson]

Revisionist Starmer less favoured and more unfavoured than Marxist-Lentilist boss man J Corbyn:

 

[DaveCinzano]

Revisionist Starmer less favoured and more unfavoured than Marxist-Lentilist boss man J Corbyn:

Clearly playing a really, really long game of four dimensional chess

 

[brogdale]

Really difficult to imagine what 29% of respondents found to regard as favourable.

 

[teqniq]

Re: the Jewish Chronicle interview and Starmer's position, this is pretty much nail on the head for me:

The Human Rights Lawyer Against the Law

Keir Starmer's refusal to recognise Amnesty International's findings about Israeli apartheid isn't just a betrayal of Palestinians – it shows that his appreciation for human rights extends only as far as it benefits his career.

tribunemag.co.uk

 

[Jeff Robinson]

Revisionist clique ramp up bourgeois law and order rhetoric

 

[Puddy_Tat]

and quoting the fucking s*n

:facepaw:

 

[Calamity1971]

and quoting the fucking s*n

:facepaw:

 

[Whagwan]

They sent Debbonaire out to do the media on this. Quite why she'd be so keen to gift Bristol West to Denyer is beyond me...

 

[lazythursday]

Miliband must be struggling with his conscience, surely?

 

[ska invita]

Revisionist clique ramp up bourgeois law and order rhetoric

aside from the utter shamelessness of it all - facepaw indeed! - its also a classic non-policy, barely counts as a tweak. There are already restorative justice boards - whatever the fuck these new "victim payback boards" are its not much + its terrible tabloid language to use regarding crime - payback ffs

 

[magneze]

"Shelves of winning policies" apparently? Like the non-existant non-dom one perhaps? Or ... err ... ?

Labour has shelves of winning policies. Now the party must get people to listen | Polly Toynbee

As Johnson’s cabinet flounders, Starmer’s team has some brilliant ideas to improve this country. But voters also want a clear vision, says Guardian columnist Polly Toynbee

www.theguardian.com

 

[Chilli.s]

Fuck all policies and lots of hot air

 

[JimW]

Cupboards bursting with cunning plans. Sacks full of shit.

 

[Chilli.s]

Kier will give every household a magic bean so that they can grow a money tree thus restoring greatness to all and proving himself the saviour of the labour party

 

[DaveCinzano]

aside from the utter shamelessness of it all - facepaw indeed! - its also a classic non-policy, barely counts as a tweak. There are already restorative justice boards - whatever the fuck these new "victim payback boards" are its not much + its terrible tabloid language to use regarding crime - payback ffs

It'll be loyalty cards and redermable e-vouchers next

 

[Pickman's model]

 

[Serene]

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He certainly has the countenance of an Android.

 

[steeplejack]

It'll be loyalty cards and redermable e-vouchers next

Council Tax Bill per annum : £2,442

New Labour Shanner Card holders: £2, 197.80

 

[Pickman's model]

He certainly has the countenance of an Android.

 

[splonkydoo]

He certainly has the countenance of an Android.

'These aren't the policies you' re looking for, move along'

 

[AnnO'Neemus]

Revisionist humour in action:

About as funny as Liz 'pork markets' Truss, ie not at all.

 

[AnnO'Neemus]

Honestly, what is the point of Labour, if it's indistinguishable from the Tories?

I understand their argument is not to give the game away about what their policies will or won't be at the next general election.

The problem with adopting that stance is that they'll have spent years, failing to stand up for working class people, failing to stand up for benefits claimants (many of whom actually working, so the solution isn't 'get on your bike, and get a job'), failing to stand up for disabled people, the elderly and children living in dire poverty, and when they want to start pushing glossy leaflets through letterboxes in the run up to the next GE, no one's going to believe their election pledges and policy promises, because it will come across as insincere and opportunist, and also who will they get to do all that leafleting and door-stepping after purging and alienating so many lefties.

I suspect that many who turned to the Tories over the last couple of general elections might now be deterred from supporting them again due to the cost of living crisis and Brexit fall-out and mishandling of the pandemic/giving £billions in contracts to their cronies.

But Labour isn't giving people anything to vote for. So I suspect many will abstain and there will be a low turnout.

Starmer and the rest of the centrist dads are taking the working class and poor people's votes for granted again, they seemingly haven't learned from the Red Wall turning blue. What are they hoping to achieve by prevaricating and not only failing to stand up for some of society's most impoverished and vulnerable people, but also failing to stand up for public sector workers like social workers, nurses and teachers, etc?

Many of them must be wondering: 'If Labour won't stand up for us, why should we stand up and turn out for and vote for them?'

 

[teqniq]

Honestly, what is the point of Labour, if it's indistinguishable from the Tories?

I understand their argument is not to give the game away about what their policies will or won't be at the next general election.

The problem with adopting that stance is that they'll have spent years, failing to stand up for working class people, failing to stand up for benefits claimants (many of whom actually working, so the solution isn't 'get on your bike, and get a job'), failing to stand up for disabled people, the elderly and children living in dire poverty, and when they want to start pushing glossy leaflets through letterboxes in the run up to the next GE, no one's going to believe their election pledges and policy promises, because it will come across as insincere and opportunist, and also who will they get to do all that leafleting and door-stepping after purging and alienating so many lefties.

I suspect that many who turned to the Tories over the last couple of general elections might now be deterred from supporting them again due to the cost of living crisis and Brexit fall-out and mishandling of the pandemic/giving £billions in contracts to their cronies.

But Labour isn't giving people anything to vote for. So I suspect many will abstain and there will be a low turnout.

Starmer and the rest of the centrist dads are taking the working class and poor people's votes for granted again, they seemingly haven't learned from the Red Wall turning blue. What are they hoping to achieve by prevaricating and not only failing to stand up for some of society's most impoverished and vulnerable people, but also failing to stand up for public sector workers like social workers, nurses and teachers, etc?

Many of them must be wondering: 'If Labour won't stand up for us, why should we stand up and turn out for and vote for them?'

Frankly I don't think the right wing of the Labour party (for it is them driving what passes for policy at the moment) give a flying fuck about poor. disadvantaged people.

 

[Calamity1971]

Frankly I don't think the right wing of the Labour party (for it is them driving what passes for policy at the moment) give a flying fuck about poor. disadvantaged people.

Reeves certainly doesn't give a flying fuck. She needs to trot over to the other side of the floor with kieth.

 

[hitmouse]

"Shelves of winning policies" apparently? Like the non-existant non-dom one perhaps? Or ... err ... ?

Labour has shelves of winning policies. Now the party must get people to listen | Polly Toynbee

As Johnson’s cabinet flounders, Starmer’s team has some brilliant ideas to improve this country. But voters also want a clear vision, says Guardian columnist Polly Toynbee

www.theguardian.com

Banning environmental protests, innit.

 

[DaveCinzano]

They sent Debbonaire out to do the media on this.

Poor Glen

 

[DaveCinzano]

'These aren't the policies you' re looking for, move along'

Certainly not Thatcher Death Revels that's for sure

 

[Puddy_Tat]

from teh tweeter

 

[mx wcfc]

I might be being a bit idealist about the US VP, but can you imagine any UK Labour politician talking like this?

 

[oryx]

I might be being a bit idealist about the US VP, but can you imagine any UK Labour politician talking like this?

Some of those on the left, yes.

Those in charge - resounding no.