Keir Starmer's time is up

[Jeff Robinson]

Compare this clarity and passion to the fuckwitted revisionist rubbish of the Starmer renegade clique!

 

[teqniq]

Great speech but the account owner has me blocked on Twitter, mainly because she is an Assadist and she realised that I knew this.

 

[The39thStep]

 

[Pickman's model]

If looks could kill the labour party would be looking for a new leader

 

[rekil]

Great speech but the account owner has me blocked on Twitter, mainly because she is an Assadist and she realised that I knew this.

It probably isn't a great speech but I'm not going to bother checking because Daly is an incorrigible loon and her time is well past up.

RBB: It was very annoying to hear Deputy Micheál Martin saying, obviously with a sideswipe at the left, that people were not jumping up and down about the Russians in Syria. Some of us were. I did not notice Deputy Martin on the marches to the Russian embassy. We were there.
Mick Wallace: We were not.
Clare Daly: We were not.
RBB: Deputies Wallace and Daly were not. That was their choice. We disagree.
Mick Wallace: And we will not be.

And yes that twitter person all the crankies like is pure poison.

 

[splonkydoo]

he can't do either

But can his haircut?

 

[Dom Traynor]

Compare this clarity and passion to the fuckwitted revisionist rubbish of the Starmer renegade clique!

Clare Daly and Mick Wallace have gone full Assadist/Putinist Red Brown loons now.

 

[PR1Berske]

Dan Hodges having a normal one.

 

[Jeff Robinson]

Clare Daly and Mick Wallace have gone full Assadist/Putinist Red Brown loons now.

That's a shame. I hadn't heard of them before.

 

[Jeff Robinson]

Compare that revisionist loser Starmer with the great boss man J Corbyn, who brought joy wherever he went:

 

[PR1Berske]

 

[DaveCinzano]

Only took a war

 

[two sheds]

and him actually doing nothing

 

[splonkydoo]

That's a shame. I hadn't heard of them before.

yet still, this is spot on

 

[Puddy_Tat]

and him actually doing nothing

forensically doing nothing, surely?

 

[Jeff Robinson]

Revisionist humour in action:

 

[Smokeandsteam]

I’m no fan of the extremely dodgy AWL, and I’ve never heard of the other two, but on a general point it’s remarkable the speed and extent to which the ‘left’ has been routed in the Labour Party.

I’d argue that the lesson is obvious. But for those committed to looking the other way from the objective reality where is the campaign and organised resistance to this? How has the Corbyn effect dissolved so quickly? Yes, the right of the party has been more ruthless but that alone can’t explain the rout alone surely?

 

[hitmouse]

I sort of thought they were already banned? Looking it up, four people were definitely suspended in 2015 for AWL crimes, did they end up being let back in or what?

 

[srb7677]

Revisionist humour in action:

That's so utterly cringeworthy. If she ever has to rely on her stand up routine to make a living, she'll soon be relying on the nearest food bank.

 

[srb7677]

Do we have a noun for his disciples yet (a la "blairite", "corbynista" etc.)? Heard one gushing on the Today programme this morning.

I think "deluded twats" will suffice until something better comes along.

 

[belboid]

I sort of thought they were already banned? Looking it up, four people were definitely suspended in 2015 for AWL crimes, did they end up being let back in or what?

They were mere individuals, the organisation was never specifically banned.

Left Labour Alliance & SLN are both splits from momentum, the latter particularly since Corbyns defeat. They used to be known as the LIE Network (Labour in Exile) - Tony greenstein and a couple of cpgb gobshites. The LLA ‘leader’ was expelled last week for supporting LAW - even tho he doesn’t.

 

[steeplejack]

Keir Starmer can't see a political cow-pat without stepping in it:



But yeah, Corbyn is too pro-Russian / the problem, apparently.

 

[AmateurAgitator]

Keir Starmer can't see a political cow-pat without stepping in it:



But yeah, Corbyn is too pro-Russian / the problem, apparently.

But he's Russian. Son of a KGB guy. He can't be trusted.

 

[Artaxerxes]

Generic bland congratulatory template statement #4 to media figure.

Dull.

 

[ska invita]

Yes, the right of the party has been more ruthless but that alone can’t explain the rout alone surely?

What explanation is on your mind specifically?
I can think of a few things - a perfect storm of shit even - but wondering if theres something particularly at the front of your mind?

 

[Chilli.s]

He has zero chance of being PM so doesnt matter what he does

 

[killer b]

He has zero chance of being PM

No fan of Starmer, but this isn't really true is it? he had a much better chance of being PM than almost anyone else in the country.

 

[emanymton]

No fan of Starmer, but this isn't really true is it? he had a much better chance of being PM than almost anyone else in the country.

Yet almost anyone else on the country could do a better job of it.

 

[killer b]

Dunno about that, I reckon it's probably a pretty tricky job. I'd be fucking shit at it.

Look at the evidence before us: Starmer has completely crushed his internal rivals in the Labour Party, and they're consistently ahead of the government in the polls, including now on key issues where they generally struggle like the economy. He's ahead of the tory leader on the 'who would be best prime minister' poll, something Ed Miliband and Corbyn never managed. He's fucked up loads of times too, but it's basically impossible to not fuck up loads as a top tier national politician.

As far as achieving his ends are concerned - consolidation of party control for his faction, building support in demographics that Labour have struggled with over the last decade with a view to building an electoral coalition to scrape a win at the next general election - he's doing alright, and very well by some metrics. I don't like or agree with the political direction he's chosen to achieve these ends, but I'm not going to mistake that dislike for incisive analysis of his chances at the next election.

Like it or not, he has proved to be reasonably competent at leader of the Labour Party so far. He'd probably be reasonably competent as Prime Minister too, and there's a very reasonable chance he'll get a go. I won't like what he does when he's there, mind.

 

[PR1Berske]

I've had this bookmarked for years:

Labour will be tougher than Tories on benefits, vows Rachel Reeves

New shadow work and pensions minister says party will cut welfare bill and force long-term unemployed to take up work offers or lose support

www.theguardian.com