Keir Starmer's time is up

[sleaterkinney]

She's fiddling while Kiev burns

I’m a he.

 

[sleaterkinney]

The fact thay these individuals have put their careers first/successfully been intimidated (take your pick) doesn't change the inherent right to remain anti-war, or the insidious right-wing populist 'against the war but for the troops' narrative of your stance.

I'm not actually 100% anti-war myself. Family of mine died in the holocaust and that fuels my feeling that some wars, if not just, do end up being necessary. But your apparent view that people who are anti-war should just pick a side is really reductive and unhelpful.

I just think having a pop at NATO and Iraq on a day like yesterday makes you look like a massive self-righteous prick.

 

[sleaterkinney]

Why have a pop at people having a pop at Nato when Putin's tanks are rolling in? Do you even care at all you monster?

Putin is using NATO as a justification for his megalomania.

 

[Pickman's model]

I’m a he.

thank you for the correction

 

[Pickman's model]

he's fiddling while Kiev burns

corrected

 

[sleaterkinney]

thank you for the correction

You've actually met me as well...

 

[Pickman's model]

Putin is using NATO as a justification for his megalomania.

no, he is using nato as a justification for his war. something rather different

 

[Pickman's model]

You've actually met me as well...

have i? sorry to say you made no impression on me.

 

[sleaterkinney]

have i? sorry to say you made no impression on me.

I'm relieved I didn't.

 

[Pickman's model]

I'm relieved I didn't.

i will be careful to add you to the list of urbs i've met, in the 'eminently forgettable' pile

anyway, it must have been before you became a right-wing shit

 

[belboid]

The Labour MPs have taken back their signatures now, and it’s fine, they can be anti-war, but why have a pop at NATO today when Putins tanks are rolling in?.

They signed it several days ago

 

[sleaterkinney]

i will be careful to add you to the lost of urbs i've met, in the 'eminently forgettable' pile

anyway, it must have been before you became a right-wing shit

 

[Dom Traynor]

i will be careful to add you to the list of urbs i've met, in the 'eminently forgettable' pile

anyway, it must have been before you became a right-wing shit

She's always been a liberal cunt

 

[sleaterkinney]

She's always been a liberal cunt

Oh no, not the L word!.

 

[Pickman's model]

I just think having a pop at NATO and Iraq on a day like yesterday makes you look like a massive self-righteous prick.

how much democracy do we have in this country if you can't have a pop at nato?

 

[littlebabyjesus]

I just think having a pop at NATO and Iraq on a day like yesterday makes you look like a massive self-righteous prick.

That's like a milder version of Putin's declaration that Russians protesting against the war are committing treason.

War has started, and you must now be on your side (assigned to you according to your nationality). NATO is our side. You may have criticised NATO in the past, but now it is your duty to defend it.

I agree with the posters saying that these MPs weren't smart in what they did. In fact, they played right into Starmer's hands. But that's not the same as saying that somehow it is wrong in principle to criticise right now.

 

[killer b]

Here’s the Young Labour statement. The SCG MPs could have signed this:

it seems not.

 

[Pickman's model]

it seems not.

the modern version of seizing control of tv and radio stations

 

[PR1Berske]

it seems not.

I have to smile at the tone switching from youth to parent so jarringly!

 

[Artaxerxes]

it seems not.

They did the NATO aggression thing.

 

[billy_bob]

Nice ambiguous construction, 'we are especially concerned to see'. Could mean 'we are really worried that this is happening' or 'it's really important to us that this happens'. Plausible deniability?

 

[Jeff Robinson]

Starmerite revisionism is the worst.

 

[Pickman's model]

Starmerite revisionism is the worst.

Shammerism

 

[hitmouse]

No conference for Young Labour either:

Keir Starmer slashes Young Labour funds and axes conference in clash with Left

A Labour source claimed the youth wing has become a haven for "factional rubbish" after Nato row burst into the open, meanwhile Momentum lashed out at the leader for "silencing" activists

www.mirror.co.uk

Mind you, can't imagine there's that many young people left?

 

[two sheds]

He won't mind if Unite follows his example and cuts funding, then.

 

[Jeff Robinson]

The inevitable outcome of the racist, jingoist rhetoric of the Starmer clique

 

[Jeff Robinson]

It's the Starmer clique who are the Putin apologists, like his unofficial adviser Mandelson (Putin and the Prince of Darkness) and his role model Blair (Blair Says Forget The People Of Ukraine, Let's Side With Putin And Fight Radical Islam)

 

[hitmouse]

It's the Starmer clique who are the Putin apologists, like his unofficial adviser Mandelson (Putin and the Prince of Darkness) and his role model Blair (Blair Says Forget The People Of Ukraine, Let's Side With Putin And Fight Radical Islam)

Oh, that about Mandelson is genuinely something I didn't know about, thanks for that information. I mean, it's not like I thought he was a top bloke before this and my rosy-eyed view of him has now been shaken, but good to know all the same.

 

[Pickman's model]

It's the Starmer clique who are the Putin apologists, like his unofficial adviser Mandelson (Putin and the Prince of Darkness) and his role model Blair (Blair Says Forget The People Of Ukraine, Let's Side With Putin And Fight Radical Islam)

The shammerites

 

[hitmouse]

Dunno which thread to put this on but might as well go here - sometimes I wonder if people are too harsh on Stop the War, but then I see shit like this, from one of their National Officers:


Let's Have A War Coalition