Keir Starmer's time is up
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Other creeps?
ETA: to be fair, he is the rare example of a politician with a positive approval rating.
5% like him whilst only 3% dislike him.
maomao
普費斯
The same kind of freak that likes Starmer, obviously.
On the whole perhaps someone from the party in opposition, actually putting up a fight against the government for a change is an acceptable reason to be popular.
Johnny Vodka
The Abominable Scotsman
What happens in Swindon then?
With any luck, it stays in Swindon.
Sure it is - although this didn't seem to work out so well for Jeremy Corbyn in the end.
He came as close to winning as anyone since Blair
yeah and he was destroyed for it
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Serene
Slightly disgruntled
Starmer isnt exactly ripping up trees to get in the media, creating an excitement vibe for the labour party, I cant recall him, even, ever breaking his countenance with a smile. Where is his enthusiasm for giving the Labour party an eyebrow raising hype? He is supposed to be giving Labour an intensive publicity boost. When has he done that? Is he a cardboard cut out? Why isnt he creating a buzz among the voters with zest and energy?
Kevbad the Bad
Amiable Bowel Syndrome
What gets me about all party conferences is the party leader's speech at the end, the (mostly) adoring adulation of the audience, the rapt attention from all those on the podium, the standing ovation. Then in the media the commentators predictably roll out their predictable opinions.
None of this stuff has any bearing on reality, on people's lives, on party policies, on anything very much. So why spend any time on it? I'm doing it too. Weird.
None of this stuff has any bearing on reality, on people's lives, on party policies, on anything very much. So why spend any time on it? I'm doing it too. Weird.
Monkeygrinder's Organ
Dodgy geezer swilling vapid lager
It's important to the system we have that politics is seen to be done isn't it. Party conferences are part of the theatre of 'democracy'.
Jeff Robinson
Marxist-Lentilist: Jackboots and Jackfruit
"To the Swindon lot. I didn't want you here, but you're here now. So, you know, well done. Welcome."
Monkeygrinder's Organ
Dodgy geezer swilling vapid lager
Suity McSuitface
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
I still remember the good old days when certain posters were hoping for big things from Anarchists for Labour
steveseagull
Well-Known Member
Conference bounce
Kaka Tim
Half Arsed and Slapdash till I Die
Feel the electability.
Kevbad the Bad
Amiable Bowel Syndrome
Some people only get their opinions delivered by HGV, so there's an increasingly long lead time right now.
Labour could win by winning over Green and SNP voters, but God forbid they ever consider losing votes to anyone but the Tories a problem that needs to be solved.
I predict Greens will be on 15% and winning MPs in Sheffield and Bristol with Labour reduced to 25% vote share by the next election.
Johnny Vodka
The Abominable Scotsman
Unlikely. Apart from independence, the SNP and Scottish Greens have the courage to explore policies/ideas like drug law reform and the four day week (to name a couple of things off the top of my head that will terrify Daily Mail readers). Starmer will never go for that sort of thing. Plus I suspect many Green voters think only Green parties take the environmental and climate issues seriously enough.
None of the ex-Labour* voters I know in Scotland are going back. And even if they were thinking about it, Sarwar and Starmer would be enough to put them right off.
*Most people I know.
Jeff Robinson
Marxist-Lentilist: Jackboots and Jackfruit
Hey, if a whole catalogue of criminal negligence hasn't bothered them in the past, why should they start to give a shit now?
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
oooh, how much do you fancy betting?
(There is almost 0 chance of a green mp here, the one seat they had hoped for saw a big swing against in ‘17 and a minuscule improvement in ‘19)
I'm not gonna put any money on it lol.
I'm just going by their success in local council elections in Bristol and Sheffield, which might indicate that those are the most likely spots for a breakthrough.
Greens are best positioned to benefit from Labour losing its younger members. IIRC Greens were doing pretty well pre-Corbyn, but under Corbyn a lot of their voters went over to Labour, so I don't think 2017 and 2019 are good indicators.
Sheffield and Bristol Greens seem to be the strongest outside of Brighton, if they benefit from an influx of Labour activists, some Black Swan environmental disaster which is frankly more likely than not before the next election, and put forward an energetic campaign, they could see a breakthrough.
chilango
Hypothetical Wanker
I dunno about any of that, but I can see the Green vote costing Labour Reading East for sure.
elbows
Well-Known Member
If a big chunk of the populations and/or the press seized on his 'tool' gimmick that ran through yesterdays speech then I would probably indulge in an ongoing series of bad jokes ("he'll need a winter tool allowance to survive") but since that is not the case you'll only have to suffer a few posts from me on this before I down tools.
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