Keir Starmer's time is up

[ska invita]

It was all that "beauty" in the "dignity of labour" crap that made me want to vomit; talk about out of touch.

i know what you mean - it did make me wonder how many people could relate to that - fair enough if youre skilled at a craft and living off it, great, but most people do their work with degrees of reluctance

 

[killer b]

I have this mental vision of Boris watching the Labour Party conference on the Tv whilst cacklingly evilly and stroking a cat

why would he bother?

 

[MickiQ]

why would he bother?

That's a good question they're hardly a threat to him.

 

[two sheds]

Fraud, bribery, breaking contract law, criminal negligence in government ... all those crime persuits I'd get behind

 

[nottsgirl]

Just listening to a bit of his speech on the news. Now that’s a man who hates his job.

Are Labour just going to carry on like this, essentially 2 parties? Always winter, never Christmas? Mind you, I remember last Christmas and look where that ended up.

 

[nottsgirl]

I used to believe in a pragmatic electoral route to a better world but I think Kier Starmer might be the final nail in the coffin for me.

 

[elbows]

I'm too tired to evaluate this review but its probably got some things right.

Now we know: Keir Starmer won’t generate a surge of support

He can’t be written off yet. But this was not the speech of a politician reading the national mood, says Guardian columnist Aditya Chakrabortty

www.theguardian.com

 

[nosos]

"At times today, it felt as though we were sitting through the best speech ever delivered by the head of the Crown Prosecution Service"

 

[Humberto]

It sounded ok. A bit meek. Infighting? Would need to stamp that out somehow. Needs to energise the young perhaps. And show a committed pro working class agenda.

 

[elbows]

"At times today, it felt as though we were sitting through the best speech ever delivered by the head of the Crown Prosecution Service"

Yeah that line is what pushed me to post that link despite being too tired to think properly.

 

[Elpenor]

Just seen a few clips. It reminded me of this gem of a quote from another charismatic opposition leader in the past.

Do not underestimate the determination of a quiet man

 

[two sheds]

Just seen a few clips. It reminded me of this gem of a quote from another charismatic opposition leader in the past.

Don't tell me don't tell me ..... Jimmy Stewart

 

[PR1Berske]

Just seen a few clips. It reminded me of this gem of a quote from another charismatic opposition leader in the past.

Who also came up with "the quiet man is here to stay and is turning up the volume"

 

[Humberto]

He doesn't think Boris is a bad guy. If he gets in it will be, 'here is more draconian police state and austerity which you voted for you cunts'.

 

[Raheem]

Who also came up with "the quiet man is here to stay and is turning up the volume"

It was the guy who went on to write Downton Abbey, trivia fans.

 

[imposs1904]

Makes me think of Someone to Watch Over Me (song) - Wikipedia

There's a somebody I'm longing to see
I hope that she turns out to be
Someone who'll watch over me

I'm a little lamb who's lost in the woods
I know I could always be good
To one who will watch over me

Although I may not be the man some
Girls think of as handsome
It's my heart she carries the key

Won't you tell her please to put on some speed
Follow my lead oh how I need
Someone to watch over me

Beautiful song. Especially Ella Fitzgerald's version.

 

[Larry O'Hara]

I'm looking forward to this bit..

Fourthly, I shall tell you again what you know. Because you are from the people, because you are of the people, because you live with the same realities as everybody else lives with, implausible promises don’t win victories. I’ll tell you what happens with impossible promises. You start with far-fetched resolutions. They are then pickled into a rigid dogma, a code, and you go through the years sticking to that, out-dated, mis-placed, irrelevant to the real needs, and you end up in the grotesque chaos of a Labour council hiring taxis to scuttle round a city handing out redundancy notices to its own workers.

Lord Kinnock…scum

 

[SpookyFrank]

i know what you mean - it did make me wonder how many people could relate to that - fair enough if youre skilled at a craft and living off it, great, but most people do their work with degrees of reluctance

Any actually useful job tends to be either criminally underpaid, have ruinous workloads or both. The office drones would probably rise up in rebellion if it were otherwise.

 

[Larry O'Hara]

The only thing he got really passionate about was dissing the Left…and the cynicism of using the parents of murder victims to pretend he cares shows he will wallow in the gutter enthusiastically. Tony Blair without the charisma.

 

[SpookyFrank]

He doesn't think Boris is a bad guy. If he gets in it will be, 'here is more draconian police state and austerity which you voted for you cunts'.

Law and order for the plebs. Tories are ruling class though so their corruption and criminality must all be for our own good in ways we're too dull to understand.

 

[Mr Moose]

There wasn’t necessarily a big problem with his speech. Electoral politics is a queasy popularity contest where it’s hard to guess what weird shit people will connect to.

The problem is that none of it dispels the feeling that he’s not honest.

 

[kabbes]

Well he certainly isn’t doing well in the popularity contest stakes

Keir Starmer popularity & fame | YouGov

Keir Starmer is the 7th most popular Labour politician and the 15th most popular politician & political figure. Explore the latest YouGov polling, survey results and articles about Keir Starmer.

yougov.co.uk

Lower in the rankings than both Theresa May and Dominic Raab. Now that’s impressive.

Still, he beats Dennis Skinner — a politician that retired 2 years ago.

 

[kabbes]

Lol. The most popular “Labour politicians” are Ed Balls followed by Gordon Brown. Now there’s the saddest indictment of all — much more cutting than any insult I could come up with.

Kieth is less popular than John Majors.

 

[maomao]

Lol. The most popular “Labour politicians” are Ed Balls followed by Gordon Brown. Now there’s the saddest indictment of all — much more cutting than any insult I could come up with.

Ed Balls is most popular cause he was on Strictly. Watch out for Starmer on Dancing on Ice next year. Easier than having policies.

 

[kabbes]

Sums it up. A small number of people place him slightly left of centre, a smaller number think slightly right of centre and a smaller number still place him in the centre. But by far the most popular response is “don’t know”.

 

[killer b]

Lol. The most popular “Labour politicians” are Ed Balls followed by Gordon Brown. Now there’s the saddest indictment of all — much more cutting than any insult I could come up with.

Balls was very unpopular when he was an active politician, his popularity is entirely down to his run on Strictly.

TBH I'm not sure these popularity rankings really tell us much about most opposition politicians: other than the leader of the party, most Labour MPs are pretty obscure - the rankings are as much about have you even heard of them as anything, and their obscurity is down to them not being in power, not any particular lack of character on their part (though they are mostly lacking in character tbf).

Burnham is only where he is because of the fight he had with the government last year, no other reason.

 

[kabbes]

Sorry for the spam posts but I can’t resist one more. Things liked by the people that like Kieth:



Caeleb Dressel, Magnolia Table Volume 2 and Swindon.

 

[maomao]

Jeremy Corbyn third on the list. I bet that doesn't work the other way round.

 

[maomao]

 

[kabbes]

To be fair, I like Jeremy Corbyn and I also think that Nonce Andrew is doing an excellent job as a royal.