Keir Starmer's time is up

[elbows]

Should rename the party Laboural Democrats

Laboured Jokes and the griminum wage.

 

[PR1Berske]

 

[ruffneck23]

Beat me to it

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

Labour conference: Winning election more important than unity, says Sir Keir Starmer

The Labour leader tells the BBC his party has to change to avoid losing another general election.

www.bbc.co.uk

Order of business number one then - get rid of that useless Starmer twat.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Labour conference: Winning election more important than unity, says Sir Keir Starmer

The Labour leader tells the BBC his party has to change to avoid losing another general election.

www.bbc.co.uk

Order of business number one then - get rid of that useless Starmer twat.

Such a fucking bellend. If he is so sodding forensic surely he could work out why the last election went so much to the Tory scumbags and take note that Brown and that bacon-sandwich dickhead lost roundly with no Brexit bullshit in the air. No wonder Johnson's feeling so fucking untouchable right now.

 

[hitmouse]

Good statement that:

The decision taken by delegates who predominantly live in what’s regarded as Labour red wall seats shows how far the Labour party has travelled away from the aims and hopes of working class organisations like ours.

The decision by the party to not engage with a union that levied its poorly paid members in 1902 to build a party that would bring about real change to their lives, is the culmination of a failure to deliver those changes during our 119 year relationship.

In 1902 we had thousands being fed by the king, while today the poor must feed themselves. We need footballers to campaign to ensure our schoolchildren get a hot meal. Workers in our sector, who keep the nation fed, are relying on charity and good will from family and friends to put food on their tables. They rely on help to feed their families, with 7.5% relying on food banks, according to our recent survey.

But instead of concentrating on these issues we have a factional internal war led by the leadership. We have a real crisis in the country and instead of leadership, the party’s leader chooses to divide the trade unions and the membership by proposing changes to the way elections for his successor will take place. We don’t see that as a political party with any expectations of winning an election. It’s just the leader trying to secure the right wing faction’s chosen successor.

The decision taken by our delegates doesn’t mean we are leaving the political scene, it means we will become more political and we will ensure our members’ political voice is heard as we did when we started the campaign for £10 per hour in 2014. Today we want to see £15 per hour for all workers, the abolition of zero hours contracts and ending discrimination of young people by dispensing with youth rates.

The BFAWU will not be bullied by bosses or politicians. When you pick on one of us you take on all of us. That’s what solidarity means.

 

[Artaxerxes]

I don't pay much attention to Peston, so I didn't realise he was this... blatant

Sir Keir Starmer gives Labour MPs their party back | ITV News

Keir Starmer has transferred power to MPs in a bid to limit the influence of the left and pitch Labour in the centre of British politics, Robert Peston writes. | ITV National News

www.itv.com

The big name British media is a fucking cesspool of sycophantic half arsed jokers who wouldn't know real journalism if it bit them in the face. About the only in depth reporting in the mainstream is done in Private Eye and even thats a fucking old boys network for the most part.

 

[PR1Berske]

 

[Johnny Vodka]

Looking like a womble on ch4 news...

 

[Quote]

His famed 'forensic' legal skills seem to be mostly used to wriggle out of his own lies and broken promises.

 

[elbows]

His famed 'forensic' legal skills seem to be mostly used to wriggle out of his own lies and broken promises.

Sir leader of the opposition to himself, a messy case yet to be settled in the court of appeal to nobody. Qualified for the bar yet cannot finish his pint.

 

[elbows]

An enthusiastic proponent of the minimum rage and the living cage.

 

[Quote]

"If there's one thing potential voters should know about me, it's that I'm a complete liar. I've lied before, I will lie again. I love it."

A bold strategy.

 

[ska invita]

will be interesting to see the crowd response after his pledge breaking speech

 

[two sheds]

but how do we know he's going to break pledges

 

[elbows]

You could have a big dipper
Going up and down, all around the bends
You could have a bumper car, bumping
This amusement never ends
I want to be your pledgehammer
Why don't you call my name
Oh let me be your pledgehammer
This will be my testimony

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

"If there's one thing potential voters should know about me, it's that I'm a complete liar. I've lied before, I will lie again. I love it."

A bold strategy.

Focus groups have identified the 'big fans of massive liars' demographic as a key part of the Johnson vote he needs to appeal to.

 

[Kevbad the Bad]

but how do we know he's going to break pledges

Kier:- "You'll just have to trust me on this. I've broken pledges before and I'll break them again. The difference going forwards, and this is where I'm a really special human being showing true leadership qualities, is that I will put my intention to break pledges into our manifesto. Labour will never again be accused of going back on its word more than once."

 

[killer b]

"If there's one thing potential voters should know about me, it's that I'm a complete liar. I've lied before, I will lie again. I love it."

A bold strategy.

gentle reminder that when you look at a newspaper headline - especially in the Independent - and think 'OMG did he really say that??', the answer is invariably 'no'.

 

[Artaxerxes]

Focus groups have identified the 'big fans of massive liars' demographic as a key part of the Johnson vote he needs to appeal to.

Tbf we have Johnson as pm so clearly massive liars have some appeal

 

[chilango]

gentle reminder that when you look at a newspaper headline - especially in the Independent - and think 'OMG did he really say that??', the answer is invariably 'no'.

Although, like Cameron and the pig fucking, its power comes not from whether it actually happened but that it fits with the image people have of him.

 

[killer b]

Although, like Cameron and the pig fucking, its power comes not from whether it actually happened but that it fits with the image people have of him.

I disagree, the power comes from people not reading the story behind the headline and sharing it as though it's something real

 

[two sheds]

He's broken his promise to Labour members that he'd unify the party, which seems central to him getting voted in as leader.

 

[Elpenor]

Someone on Jeremy Vine’s radio 2 phone in yesterday said that if they wanted to vote for Kier’s brand of politics they could just vote Tory.

Says it all really

 

[killer b]

He's broken his promise to Labour members that he'd unify the party, which seems central to him getting voted in as leader.

sure he's done that. what he hasn't done though, is say 'I'm ready to break pledges if they make Labour unelectable' like the independent's headline quoted above says, which is what people have been discussing for the last page.

 

[chilango]

I disagree, the power comes from people not reading the story behind the headline and sharing it as though it's something real

...that o ly works if it's 'credible' though. Hence no Starmer pig fucking stories.

 

[maomao]

sure he's done that. what he hasn't done though, is say 'I'm ready to break pledges if they make Labour unelectable' like the independent's headline quoted above says, which is what people have been discussing for the last page.

In fact he's just ready to break pledges because he's a lying prick. Which would be a better headline tbf.

 

[two sheds]

sure he's done that. what he hasn't done though, is say 'I'm ready to break pledges if they make Labour unelectable' like the independent's headline quoted above says, which is what people have been discussing for the last page.

Unifying the party is a pretty central promise though, to labour party members. And he clearly knew it was a lie when he promised it.

The headline wasn't actually a quote, it was a paraphrase. This paragraph does suggest he'll happily break more promises if he thinks it'll get him elected.

“I stand by the principles and the values behind the pledges I made to our members, but the most important pledge I made was that I would turn it into a party that would be fit for government, capable of winning a general election, I’m not going to be deflected from that.”

MSN

 

[maomao]

...that o ly works if it's 'credible' though. Hence no Starmer pig fucking stories.

No pig would ever stoop so low.

 

[killer b]

...that o ly works if it's 'credible' though. Hence no Starmer pig fucking stories.

'politician doesn't do what he said he would to get elected' is a credible headline about every politician in the world ever though.