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Keir Starmer's time is up

I was going to vote spunking cock at the next election but I'm worried it might be interpreted as a vote for the lama harmer.
I was gonna vote spunking cock but was too worried that the teller/counters might interpret that as a literal representation of a vote for BJ!

At the mo, a spunking cock vote is the only one that makes sense in its purity
 
Misfortune to have LBC in in the car earlier. Are people seriously not voting labour because of the woke agenda and starmers questioning this morning about the cervix. It’s as if the press are just being wankers.

Starmer’s answer was truly awful. However, has anyone got the form of words Labour should use on the ‘cervix question’ that won’t have voters running for the hills shouting ‘that’s it I’m done with Labour’?
 
Starmer’s answer was truly awful. However, has anyone got the form of words Labour should use on the ‘cervix question’ that won’t have voters running for the hills shouting ‘that’s it I’m done with Labour’?
"The UK is currently facing crises on several fronts, such as a pandemic, energy, logistics, manpower. There are more food banks in the UK than McDonalds and a record number of people dependant on them......Its a question of priorities".
 
"The UK is currently facing crises on several fronts, such as a pandemic, energy, logistics, manpower. There are more food banks in the UK than McDonalds and a record number of people dependant on them......Its a question of priorities".

Agree with that. But then it becomes ‘why won’t you answer?’
 
Starmer’s answer was truly awful. However, has anyone got the form of words Labour should use on the ‘cervix question’ that won’t have voters running for the hills shouting ‘that’s it I’m done with Labour’?
How about he answers with what he actually thinks is right and then let the chips fall where they may? Why has politics become about trying to work out what people want to hear and them just telling them that?
 
How about he answers with what he actually thinks is right and then let the chips fall where they may? Why has politics become about trying to work out what people want to hear and them just telling them that?
Cos the whole transgender thing has become emotive and entrenched for those that concern themselves with it. For those that don't, myself included, its all a bit B-Ark
 
How about he answers with what he actually thinks is right and then let the chips fall where they may? Why has politics become about trying to work out what people want to hear and them just telling them that?
A novel idea. Can’t see it catching on…
 
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Starmer’s answer was truly awful. However, has anyone got the form of words Labour should use on the ‘cervix question’ that won’t have voters running for the hills shouting ‘that’s it I’m done with Labour’?
"Man, woman, cervix, no cervix - I don't care, in the interests of national security I wouldn't hesitate to nuke them all"?
 
Likewise I think I'm gonna vote Green next time purely because a high vote share for Green is the clearest message to Starmer and the right of the Party that their strategy of telling hundreds of thousands of enthusiastic new members to fuck off and go away isn't good politics.
Methinks someone hasn't read the Greens' manifesto. They have one or two decent people, but are mostly the same sackful of wankers you get at Labour. And the same shit where they've changed their minds at least three times about Brexit. I can't take them seriously outside of local politics, and I can't give them credibility with a protest vote.
 
Methinks someone hasn't read the Greens' manifesto. They have one or two decent people, but are mostly the same sackful of wankers you get at Labour. And the same shit where they've changed their minds at least three times about Brexit. I can't take them seriously outside of local politics, and I can't give them credibility with a protest vote.
it doesnt matter what the manifesto says - they wont win any seats anyway - its about trying to make a vote in some vague way "meaningful" by sending cryptic messages within our democracy-killing system. votes to the greens will be interpreted in the way Rimbaud says
 
it doesnt matter what the manifesto says - they wont win any seats anyway - its about trying to make a vote in some vague way "meaningful" by sending cryptic messages within our democracy-killing system. votes to the greens will be interpreted in the way Rimbaud says
Yeah - I think I shall be voting green too for precisely this reason. Up until this last few weeks I'd have held my nose and voted Labour, because this is a marginal Labour-held seat (a part of the red wall that didn't fall) with a decent local MP. But increasingly I can't see the point in doing that. Might as well have a Tory and at least let the town get its nose in the pork barrel.
 
How about he answers with what he actually thinks is right and then let the chips fall where they may? Why has politics become about trying to work out what people want to hear and them just telling them that?

Why don’t you answer with what you think is right?

And before you ask my answer would be that there are women without a cervix and that’s both biology and the law. The law is clear that people who change gender may be recognised in the gender they have changed to. We support the law wholeheartedly, I expect Labour Party supporters to support this law, to support trans people and crucially Andrew I do not believe this diminishes other women and our support for them.
 
Why don’t you answer with what you think is right?
Am I seeking to be elected as a representative of the people? Why no, I’m not. So it doesn’t much matter what I think. But it’s rather important to have a measure of the person that wants to represent me.
 
Am I seeking to be elected as a representative of the people? Why no, I’m not. So it doesn’t much matter what I think. But it’s rather important to have a measure of the person that wants to represent me.

I ask because many people seem to stumble on the issue rather than simply dealing with the hysterical ‘they are banning women!’ guff.

It’s not going to go away so the least the leader of the Labour Party could do is workshop an answer to a question he was bound to be asked.
 
How about he answers with what he actually thinks is right and then let the chips fall where they may? Why has politics become about trying to work out what people want to hear and them just telling them that?
You mean actually having some beliefs and politics and shit? :eek:
 
it doesnt matter what the manifesto says - they wont win any seats anyway - its about trying to make a vote in some vague way "meaningful" by sending cryptic messages within our democracy-killing system. votes to the greens will be interpreted in the way Rimbaud says
Hang on, only a bit ago you were arguing that a vote for a party made people responsible for the actions of that party/government. Now it's all about the "messages: they send. Never mind that every political party has used a vote for them as an indication of the support for their policies.

'When people vote blue they are supporting the parties policies, when they vote green or yellow they aren't showing support they are sending a message' - this is self-serving nonsense.

EDIT: Is voting Labour 'sending a message' or is it support for their politics?
 
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