Keir Starmer's time is up

[Argonia]

That explains why my New Labour Council Lambeth made a big thing about it. Didn't realise it was New Labour idea. Presumably to make those who opposed Iraq war appear unpatriotic. I'd assumed it was Tory idea forced on local Councils. How wrong I was. Thanks for your post.

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It was all part of New Labour's triangulated third way perversion of Toryism. As Zarah Sultana put it in her maiden speech - 40 years of Thatcherism.

 

[Argonia]

Has he shuffled off yet or is he still producing dreadful policy documents written in garbled Esperanto with Peter Mandleson?

 

[elbows]

James Meadway in Guardian arguing that Starmer Buy British has more substance than some think. Its partly riposte to the Harris article in Guardian. Meadway is left economist and always worth reading.

Thanks for posting that, it makes me feel like maybe I didnt go out on a weird, unreal limb after all.

Because its been an odd decade+ in terms of the veneer. Clearly something important to the old ways became a corpse in the financial crisis. Attempts to prove the corpse was still alive via quantititititive easing and dressing the corpse austerely were not terribly convincing. There was no death announcement, but the death of the 'trickle down' propagandas credibility was quietly announced quite early on in the financial crisis. Reanimating the corpse was not sufficient enough a distraction that it could hope to hide the obvious ideological vacuum. And its been a weird kind of limbo waiting for someone to start to fill that vacuum. Now the pandemic has provided a way to acknowledge that the corpse really is a corpse after all, a chance to move on without acknowledging the true date or cause of death. Taxidermy doesnt have to be taxing.

 

[Puddy_Tat]

i think the spider plant has lost the will to live...

 

[Raheem]

Why do you call him a spider?

 

[elbows]

A couple of tweets.

 

[Raheem]

Doesn't seem to be any comment from Labour on the Mings tweet. Wonder how much that is down to not wanting to appear too anti-racist and how much is that if they tweet a reply they might get "You can fuck off an' all" back.

 

[Serene]

Can anyone tell the difference between Starmer and a Tory?

 

[Raheem]

Can anyone tell the difference between Starmer and a Tory?

One of them's exactly the same.

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

Did they actually have anything to say about taking the knee or did they dodge that one?

 

[SpookyFrank]

Can anyone tell the difference between Starmer and a Tory?

Tories get elected.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Did they actually have anything to say about taking the knee or did they dodge that one?

He was photographed taking the knee with Rayner a while back then almost immediately shat the bed by accidentally saying what he actually thought about BLM. After that his wonks probably told him to never mention racism again.

 

[Serene]

Hasnt he recently bought a Whippet to make himself look working class? He was seen with a Whippet, one of those tartan bags on wheels and long handles, a copy of the Sporting times and a flat cap, walking down to the bookies.

 

[Gramsci]

Thing is today I'm wondering whether its good idea to blame it all on Starmer personally.

Having Corbyn/ McDonnell at head of Labour Party sent the establishment and my New Labour Lambeth Cllrs into apoplexy. Even though some of them would support a watered down version of BLM ( no criticism of policing)

Starmer is behaving exactly like the establishment wants. I do however think this isn't going to work. Its back to triangulation. Taking a knee then saying BLM is a moment.

Which is why footballers like Rashford etc come across as genuine and to the point unlike Starmer. ( that is because they are ordinary guys who made good. They are using their position in way that I think is admirable. )If they were in Labour party they would be consided now as part of hard left to be shut up. In case they upset some voters.

In some ways I can see the impossible position Starmer is in.

Its why I'm wondering If its any use voting now. I did when Corbyn got to be leader.

The way he's been treated and the abject way Starmer thinks he should go on makes me think that the establishment are telling me you can't vote for anyone who might even suggest change.

I'm disgusted that Corbyn is still classified as Independent MP.

People like Gordon Brown , Mandelson are considered elder statesman now. Even Blair who led this country into worst foreign policy disaster since Suez gets shown more respect than Corbyn.

 

[elbows]

Sir Steer Calmer says "small change" and "yes we can't". I cant imagine why this position does not inspire.

 

[ska invita]

I cant imagine why this position does not inspire.

hes also dissing Spurs on twitter in a shit attempt to do banter the prat

 

[Argonia]

#StarmerOut correctly trending at Twitter

 

[Pickman's model]

Can anyone tell the difference between Starmer and a Tory?

A Tory says what they believe then starmer agrees with them

 

[Puddy_Tat]

 

[Artaxerxes]

 

[Orang Utan]

wot?

 

[Artaxerxes]

wot?

Not seen his latest?

 

[Orang Utan]

Not seen his latest?

nope, i never watch politicians speaking on tv as it's just too infuriating

 

[TopCat]

Summerize it.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Summerize it.

Man is cunt.

 

[Almor]

Summerize it.

Starmer has a chat with a group of ex-labour voters and makes a video of him making excuses to a guy who hasn't voted Labour since 97 who says it's because the party's too divided by losers, argues weakly with a woman who says forget about under 25's because they're all lazy and don't want to work (the woman in the meme above), can't remember what he says to the guy who stopped voting Labour in 2010 who says it's because of corbyn's toxic legacy, and then there's a bit at the end where some woman says that she was surprised by how much personality and charisma he displayed

There was some stuff about Blackpool being left behind and poverty, and how can Labour pay to fix those if the tories can't, which is apparently about priorities

Can't believe that I watched it to end, but at least you don't have to

 

[TopCat]

Starmer has a chat with a group of ex-labour voters and makes a video of him making excuses to a guy who hasn't voted Labour since 97 who says it's because the party's too divided by losers, argues weakly with a woman who says forget about under 25's because they're all lazy and don't want to work (the woman in the meme above), can't remember what he says to the guy who stopped voting Labour in 2010 who says it's because of corbyn's toxic legacy, and then there's a bit at the end where some woman says that she was surprised by how much personality and charisma he displayed

There was some stuff about Blackpool being left behind and poverty, and how can Labour pay to fix those if the tories can't, which is apparently about priorities

Can't believe that I watched it to end, but at least you don't have to

Thanks. You can wash your hands now.

 

[ska invita]

Starmer has a chat with a group of ex-labour voters and makes a video of him making excuses to a guy who hasn't voted Labour since 97 who says it's because the party's too divided by losers, argues weakly with a woman who says forget about under 25's because they're all lazy and don't want to work (the woman in the meme above), can't remember what he says to the guy who stopped voting Labour in 2010 who says it's because of corbyn's toxic legacy, and then there's a bit at the end where some woman says that she was surprised by how much personality and charisma he displayed

There was some stuff about Blackpool being left behind and poverty, and how can Labour pay to fix those if the tories can't, which is apparently about priorities

Can't believe that I watched it to end, but at least you don't have to

who set this up? is it a bbc thing? who chose the ex labour voters?

 

[Almor]

who set this up? is it a bbc thing? who chose the ex labour voters?

I am not prepared to care that much about it tbh, one of the ex-labour voters laughs about how she can't remember when she last voted for them so it can't have been a very rigorous selection process

 

[ska invita]

I am not prepared to care that much about it tbh, one of the ex-labour voters laughs about how she can't remember when she last voted for them so it can't have been a very rigorous selection process

i expect it was pretty rigorous - have to weed out all those exLabour voters who liked Corbyn / dislike Starmer