Kamala Harris' time is up

[two sheds]

Even better when there's a plane load of them.

 

[Sue]

Didn't The Guardian do something like this in 2000? Ask readers to write to undecided American voters or something? I remember it going down incredibly badly, of course.

Yes, they published some of them and they were as cringey as you'd expect. And the Americans who responded were utterly pissed off. Who ever thought any of it was a good idea...?

 

[scifisam]

Foreign interference in US elections

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Ooh, I have a friend there I'd love to visit. Maybe I should sign up to "campaign."

 

[King Biscuit Time]

Didn't The Guardian do something like this in 2000? Ask readers to write to undecided American voters or something? I remember it going down incredibly badly, of course.

Ah yeah , I had forgotten about that. In 2004 they had people writing to Americans to tell them not to vote for GWB. Seems almost quaint now.

The responses were exactly as we all remember 'Dear Limey Assholes....'

Real Americans aren't interested in your pansy-ass, tea-sipping opinions. If you want to save the world, begin with your own worthless corner of it.
Texas, USA

Reaction from the US to the Guardian's Clark County project

Last week G2 launched Operation Clark County to help readers have a say in the American election by writing to undecided voters in the crucial state of Ohio. In the first three days, more than 11,000 people requested addresses. Here is some of the reaction to the project that we received from...

www.theguardian.com

 

[The39thStep]

Ah yeah , I had forgotten about that. In 2004 they had people writing to Americans to tell them not to vote for GWB. Seems almost quaint now.

The responses were exactly as we all remember 'Dear Limey Assholes....'

Real Americans aren't interested in your pansy-ass, tea-sipping opinions. If you want to save the world, begin with your own worthless corner of it.
Texas, USA

Reaction from the US to the Guardian's Clark County project

Last week G2 launched Operation Clark County to help readers have a say in the American election by writing to undecided voters in the crucial state of Ohio. In the first three days, more than 11,000 people requested addresses. Here is some of the reaction to the project that we received from...

www.theguardian.com

Tremendous stuff

 

[Yossarian]

Ah yeah , I had forgotten about that. In 2004 they had people writing to Americans to tell them not to vote for GWB. Seems almost quaint now.

The responses were exactly as we all remember 'Dear Limey Assholes....'

Real Americans aren't interested in your pansy-ass, tea-sipping opinions. If you want to save the world, begin with your own worthless corner of it.
Texas, USA

Reaction from the US to the Guardian's Clark County project

Last week G2 launched Operation Clark County to help readers have a say in the American election by writing to undecided voters in the crucial state of Ohio. In the first three days, more than 11,000 people requested addresses. Here is some of the reaction to the project that we received from...

www.theguardian.com

Yep, the campaign reportedly got massive media attention in the US - John Kerry ended up losing to Bush in the state by around 118,000 votes, 48.7% to 50.8% - if he had won Ohio he would have become president

 

[Rob Ray]

Stupid idea but some of those all-caps reactions really underline how large sections of the US public were nuts long before Trump showed up.

 

[krtek a houby]

How would voters in the UK feel if a load of Americans came over canvassing?

Didn't Clinton have a bunch of advisors liaise with the Blair team during his campaign for PM?

 

[two sheds]

Be fair though it was the labour advisers that swung the election over here - the tories were a dead cert to win in the weeks before the election until the labour advisers hit on their cunning strategy.

 

[Nylock]

Foreign interference in US elections

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Someone should tell those idiots to stay the fuck away from there. Did they not learn ANYTHING from 2004???

 

[redsquirrel]

elsewhere here someone cited simon rosenberg, who predicted that the trump campaign would publish bullshit polls, and i think he's right. ttump & co. lie about everything, and as Yuwipi Woman said, you don't sell papers without generating tension.

(Nearly) All decent poll trackers account for that - and when you look at, for example, 538 even if you discount all the Republican sponsored polls one still does not see a huge lead for Harris.

 

[Jeff Robinson]

Who doesn’t love an outsider that knows all about everything better than you do?

I think the Americans on this site wait with baited breath for my spicy takes of US politics.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Middle-class Americans, who are also over to fix your deprived community for you.

I'd probably tell them come back when your shithole country has legalised abortion, banned guns and set its domestic voltage to God's own 230V.

 

[Dogsauce]

How would voters in the UK feel if a load of Americans came over canvassing?

Do we know if they’re actually out canvassing? Could just be doing back office stuff, envelope stuffing, organisational shit, that sort of thing. Plenty of ‘behind the scenes’ stuff they could be used for, going out door knocking wouldn’t seem like a good idea.

 

[The39thStep]

Do we know if they’re actually out canvassing? Could just be doing back office stuff, envelope stuffing, organisational shit, that sort of thing. Plenty of ‘behind the scenes’ stuff they could be used for, going out door knocking wouldn’t seem like a good idea.

I haven't seen any further confirmation of it by Labour sources so no clues as to whether it's actually happening nevermind what they are supposed to be doing there, how it's being funded or what possible added value they would contribute.

 

[Elpenor]

Someone I knew from uni went out to work for Obama in 2008, but I assume it was back office stuff. Having googled them they are now a human rights lawyer so probably a future Labour PM

 

[cupid_stunt]

It's given Farage another excuse to pipe-up.

Nigel Farage has accused Labour of “direct interference” in the US election after it emerged almost 100 current and former party staff will campaign for Kamala Harris.

Activists from Sir Keir Starmer’s party will spend the next two-and-a-half weeks canvassing for the Democratic nominee in four key battlegrounds ahead of the US election on Nov 5.

Mr Farage said on Friday: “This is direct election interference by the governing Labour Party, and particularly stupid if Trump wins. Who is paying for all of this?”

Labour activists who want to help the Harris campaign will need to pay for their own flights and car hire but have been told that Democrat volunteers would provide accommodation.

Party staff intending to travel are expected to book annual leave for the duration of their trip.

Nigel Farage accuses Labour of ‘direct interference’ in US election

Nigel Farage has accused Labour of “direct interference” in the US election after it emerged almost 100 current and former party staff will campaign for Kamala Harris.

www.telegraph.co.uk

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

I haven't seen any further confirmation of it by Labour sources so no clues as to whether it's actually happening nevermind what they are supposed to be doing there, how it's being funded or what possible added value they would contribute.

From what I gather from the Starmer enthusiasts, Labour strategists are about ensuring just enough votes to win and no more. A handy skill for sure.

 

[Dogsauce]

It's given Farage another excuse to pipe-up.

Nigel Farage accuses Labour of ‘direct interference’ in US election

Nigel Farage has accused Labour of “direct interference” in the US election after it emerged almost 100 current and former party staff will campaign for Kamala Harris.

www.telegraph.co.uk

That’d be the Nigel Farage who goes over there regularly to boost trump at conventions etc. and who is paid by the UK taxpayer, unlike Labour activists.

 

[cupid_stunt]

That’d be the Nigel Farage who goes over there regularly to boost trump at conventions etc. and who is paid by the UK taxpayer, unlike Labour activists.

That's the fucker.

 

[Ax^]

 

[Yossarian]

If Harris loses I think some of the finger-pointing will involve her decision to go on a campaign tour with Liz Cheney

https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/21/politics/kamala-harris-liz-cheney-blue-wall-tour/index.html

 

[The39thStep]

Don't agree with everything Mehdi Hussein says here but he makes some very pertinent points

 

[Larry O'Hara]

There was a very good op ed piece by Hilary Clinton in the NYTimes a couple of days ago (it's behind a paywall but the gist of it is here - Hillary Clinton urges Americans to rally around Kamala Harris: ‘a fresh start’ - where she points to all the likely angles of attack Harris, as both a woman and a black woman, will be subjected to, based on her own experiences. It's an excellent, spot-on and sobering read. This point is particularly important:

“Harris and the campaign will have to cut through the noise, and all of us as voters must be thoughtful about what we read, believe and share,” Clinton wrote.

(the full read is here - Opinion | Hillary Clinton: How Kamala Harris Can Win and Make History )

The words Hilary Clinton and fresh start don’t resonate for me…

 

[_Russ_]

Don't agree with everything Mehdi Hussein says here but he makes some very pertinent points

"Madam Vice President, if you lose the race, don't you or the Democrats blame 'the Muslims for that. No, you can blame yourself: for not changing course, for not heeding the polls [on Gaza], for not using the power you have to stop a genocide."


Are there actually polls showing a majority of Americans wanting stronger measures against Israel as oppossed to letting it do everything and anything to defend itself?

 

[The39thStep]

"Madam Vice President, if you lose the race, don't you or the Democrats blame 'the Muslims for that. No, you can blame yourself: for not changing course, for not heeding the polls [on Gaza], for not using the power you have to stop a genocide."


Are there actually polls showing a majority of Americans wanting stronger measures against Israel as oppossed to letting it do everything and anything to defend itself?

I think his point is based on polls like this

 

[Petcha]

She prolly won't win. But if she did I really think she'd show a little more steel against the Nazi Israeli government than the current idiot occupying the oval office. Her hands are sadly tied for the next six weeks. I'd like to see a stronger Sec of State as well.

 

[krtek a houby]

She prolly won't win. But if she did I really think she'd show a little more steel against the Nazi Israeli government than the current idiot occupying the oval office. Her hands are sadly tied for the next six weeks. I'd like to see a stronger Sec of State as well.

Nazi Israeli?

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Nazi Israeli?

There are holocaust survivors saying as much. What would Primo Levi have thought about the phrase do you think, in the current circumstances?

 

[Serge Forward]

Nazi Israeli?

Fucking idiotic and straight out of the anti semite's playbook. Fascist or fascist adjacent Israel, far right, apartheid, colonialist or genocidal Israel all work to one degree or another. Nazi Israel shows those who use it to be a dick.