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Kamala Harris' time is up

I need to stop checking the polls everyday - it’s always ‘neck and neck’ and ‘Kanaka small lead but in margin of error’. I have this vain hope that half the US population will one day see that making a pedophile, rapist, fascist con-artist president is a bad idea, but it seems they never will. I guess we’ve just got to hope enough of them are sick, lost or lazy enough to not cast their ballots.
Tbh win lose or draw the presidential election won't make things better. And if the last couple of elections are anything to go by more than half the voting us population will see trump as a poorer option. Depends less on the popular vote than the electoral college imo
 
Tbh win lose or draw the presidential election won't make things better. And if the last couple of elections are anything to go by more than half the voting us population will see trump as a poorer option. Depends less on the popular vote than the electoral college imo

Agreed, that’s what will determine it. But the swing states are also too close to call atm.
 
Is her time already up?

One week before the 2016 election, it was already the case that HRC hadn't opened any commanding lead against DJT. And we know the rest of the story.

There's a lot of chatter on social media speculating that the Harris campaign is seeing internal polls that are very discouraging, to say the least. And, once again, we don't see the kind of commanding lead that would set hearts and minds at rest, when it comes to next November - which is just three weeks away, don't forget.
 
Is her time already up?

One week before the 2016 election, it was already the case that HRC hadn't opened any commanding lead against DJT. And we know the rest of the story.

There's a lot of chatter on social media speculating that the Harris campaign is seeing internal polls that are very discouraging, to say the least. And, once again, we don't see the kind of commanding lead that would set hearts and minds at rest, when it comes to next November - which is just three weeks away, don't forget.
Er how did the popular vote work out in 2016? 66m to 63 in Clinton's favour iirc
 
Its crazy to me how 50-50 these recent elections are....i wonder what the biggest electoral landslide a US election has been
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Nixon the biggest:
"On election day, not only did Nixon win a commanding 520 electoral votes to McGovern’s 17 (a margin of 93.5 percentage points), but Nixon became the first Republican candidate to win every state in the South, historically a Democratic stronghold."
The thought was that Nixon was going to end the Vietnam war. The war ended disastrously.
 
Tbh win lose or draw the presidential election won't make things better. And if the last couple of elections are anything to go by more than half the voting us population will see trump as a poorer option. Depends less on the popular vote than the electoral college imo

Everyone is unhappy with the candidates we're presented with, and everyone thinks the country is going in the wrong direction. Instead of fighting each other over scraps, we should be demanding better options, both in candidates and policies. It won't happen though. The people who benefit from the status quo are fueling the divide.
 
Wondering if anyone here know the answer to this. Harris says she'll enshrine protection of abortion rights, but does that mean she'll need much more control over Congress/Senate (I don't understand this shit) in order to do so, seeing as Biden isn't capable of doing it now? Or is there another reason he isn't doing/can't do it? And there's no sign she's going have more control than Biden does now.

She has little to no chance of doing this. She could only do this if the Dems win the Senate and the House long enough to propose a Constitutional amendment. Then, it needs to be ratified by the states. Unless a majority of states go Democratic, it's just not happening. What is possible is if they impeach a couple of the Supreme Court justices. Alito and Thomas come to mind, although many others have also done dodgy things. Then, pack the court with pro-choice judges until a new abortion case comes forward that they can rule on.
 
The thought was that Nixon was going to end the Vietnam war. The war ended disastrously.

It would have helped if Nixon hadn't conspired to keep the war going when he was running for president:

In 1968, the Paris Peace talks, intended to put an end to the 13-year-long Vietnam War, failed because an aide working for then-Presidential candidate Richard Nixon convinced the South Vietnamese to walk away from the dealings, says a new report by the BBC’s David Taylor. By the late 1960s Americans had been involved in the Vietnam War for nearly a decade, and the ongoing conflict was an incredibly contentious issue, says PBS:

In 1967, with American troop strength in Vietnam reaching 500,000, protest against U.S. participation in the Vietnam War had grown stronger as growing numbers of Americans questioned whether the U.S. war effort could succeed or was morally justifiable. They took their protests to the streets in peace marches, demonstrations, and acts of civil disobedience. Despite the country’s polarization, the balance of American public opinion was beginning to sway toward “de-escalation” of the war.

Nixon’s Presidental campaign needed the war to continue, since Nixon was running on a platform that opposed the war. The BBC:

Nixon feared a breakthrough at the Paris Peace talks designed to find a negotiated settlement to the Vietnam war, and he knew this would derail his campaign.

… In late October 1968 there were major concessions from Hanoi which promised to allow meaningful talks to get underway in Paris – concessions that would justify Johnson calling for a complete bombing halt of North Vietnam. This was exactly what Nixon feared.

President Johnson had at the time a habit of recording all of his phone conversations, and newly released tapes from 1968 detailed that the FBI had “bugged” the telephones of the South Vietnamese ambassador and of Anna Chennault, one of Nixon’s aides. Based on the tapes, says Taylor for the BBC, we learn that in the time leading up to the Paris Peace talks, “Chennault was despatched to the South Vietnamese embassy with a clear message: the South Vietnamese government should withdraw from the talks, refuse to deal with Johnson, and if Nixon was elected, they would get a much better deal.” The Atlantic Wire:

In the recently released tapes, we can hear Johnson being told about Nixon’s interference by Defence Secretary Clark Clifford. The FBI had bugged the South Vietnamese ambassadors phone. They had Chennault lobbying the ambassador on tape. Johnson was justifiably furious — he ordered Nixon’s campaign be placed under FBI surveillance. Johnson passed along a note to Nixon that he knew about the move. Nixon played like he had no idea why the South backed out, and offered to travel to Saigon to get them back to the negotiating table.

Though the basic story of Nixon’s involvement in stalling the Vietnam peace talks has been around before, the new tapes, says the Atlantic Wire, describe how President Johnson knew all about the on-goings but chose not to bring them to the public’s attention: he thought that his intended successor, Hubert Humphrey, was going to beat Nixon in the upcoming election anyway. And, by revealing that he knew about Nixon’s dealings, he’d also have to admit to having spied on the South Vietnamese ambassador.

Eventually, Nixon won by just 1 percent of the popular vote. “Once in office he escalated the war into Laos and Cambodia, with the loss of an additional 22,000 American lives, before finally settling for a peace agreement in 1973 that was within grasp in 1968,” says the BBC.

 
I need to stop checking the polls everyday - it’s always ‘neck and neck’ and ‘Kanaka small lead but in margin of error’. I have this vain hope that half the US population will one day see that making a pedophile, rapist, fascist con-artist president is a bad idea, but it seems they never will. I guess we’ve just got to hope enough of them are sick, lost or lazy enough to not cast their ballots.

The media can't make money unless they keep us on the edge of our seats fearful of the outcome. You don't sell papers with common sense.
 
It would have helped if Nixon hadn't conspired to keep the war going when he was running for president:



Crazy innit. I mean I don't think in these terms but they're supposed to and that's just flat-out treason.

Don't expose it because you bring the system down, or something.
 
The media can't make money unless they keep us on the edge of our seats fearful of the outcome. You don't sell papers with common sense.

I don’t think the closeness of the polls is some media invention. It’s a function of both the electoral college and political polarisation
 
I don’t think the closeness of the polls is some media invention.

elsewhere here someone cited simon rosenberg, who predicted that the trump campaign would publish bullshit polls, and i think he's right. ttump & co. lie about everything, and as Yuwipi Woman said, you don't sell papers without generating tension.

i though biden would have won, and i think harris will win. there is a massive get-out-the-vote movement among democrats this year as there was 4 years ago, and that will only be visible on the day after the election. she'll win MI, forget the "what about gaza" stuff. if american-palestinians are angry with biden, they'll get a fucking wake-up call from "i'm the best friend israel ever had" trump.

there, i just gave a very big hostage to fortune.
 
I don’t think the closeness of the polls is some media invention. It’s a function of both the electoral college and political polarisation

I think it may be a bit of both. Things are really polarized (and that's no accident). The electoral college has needed to go for a long time now. However, I do think the polls are being exaggerated a bit ahead of the election. If Trump loses, then it gives him space to claim the election is stolen and the press gets to run with the tension for months.
 
Apparently her interview on Fox didn't go brilliantly, bit of question dodging. Hard to know if it matters much, possibly also looked tougher than the audience might have been expecting as a plus.
 
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