Sorry - hadn’t realised you were such a fan! Explains a lot
Do like the phrase “genuine church” though!!
Just Stop Oil
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Do like the phrase “genuine church” though!!
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Not sure edcraw does nuance
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
its a sect and thusly to me on the same level as the christadelphians, the church of the latter day saints and the moonies.
platinumsage
HaveMyPassword123
I wouldn't call their vicars fake though. As an aside I reckon the latter day saints are about equivalent to the RCs - from saint fetishism to anti-wanking and their stance on dinosaurs they're pretty much the same.
Thought he was a deacon?! (like I know the difference or care)
Rob Ray
Weight is meaningless
"Your friend is a friend of people I don't like, so even though you've said they aren't your friends, you must be their friend too" would be a fairly pathetic thing for an angry child to shout on a playground, let alone for a minister of the crown to write on his official notepaper.
Brainaddict
slight system overdrive
What an absolute bell-end. The only people this will appeal to are people who wouldn't dream of voting Labour, so it's not just performative nonsense, it's electorally worthless performative nonsense.
platinumsage
HaveMyPassword123
Good to see that the left really knows the minds of all the prospective Lab/Con fence-sitting voters. I suspect that's why Corbyn won the last election.
Imagine thinking Calvin Robinson AND Grant Shapps are right about something!!!
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
The Tories are in more need of really knowing the minds of all prospective Lab/Con fence sitting voters tbh
Rob Ray
Weight is meaningless
No doubt there will be a surge of Tory voting based on Grant's Twitter tantrum today (honestly I sort of hope there is, I'd enjoy watching Starkers panic).
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
What a petulant little boy Shapps is
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
Fuck's sake.
Not surprising though on a number of levels. The speeches by JSO people there aren't exactly inspiring either. Do think the climate stuff is going to be very messy with backlashes, organised reactions like this, and plenty of manufactured counter-narratives and protests.
chilango
Hypothetical Wanker
World will miss 1.5C warming limit - top UK expert
Former head of the UN climate science body told the BBC's Today programme he was very pessimistic.
www.bbc.com
The only reasonable critique of Just Stop Oil in times like these is that they are not disruptive enough.
I think so much of the kneejerk rejection of JSO (however we frame our complaints, and whatever direction they are coming from) is born out of a fear of looking the reality of the situation in the face. We'd rather not be reminded of badly we're fucking ourselves and our children over.
Give it a year or two and JSO will be a minor footnote compared to the shitstorm that will emerge one way or another.
We're almost certain to overshoot 1.5c this fucking year. If we don't do something very, very drastic 2.5 -3c is on the cards.
Indeed. It’s important to remember that an increase of 1.5c doesn’t mean that everything is as it was, but each day is 1.5c hotter across the globe. It is an average increase, which reflects a much hotter hot. That’s why we’re seeing these record temperatures almost at 50c in Europe and over 50c in China and the US. If the average increase hits 2.5c, expect to see pockets in the summer get to 60c, and that’s pretty much unlivable.
Mr.Bishie
pickled egg
Needs reposting in the CC forumWorld will miss 1.5C warming limit - top UK expert
Former head of the UN climate science body told the BBC's Today programme he was very pessimistic.www.bbc.com
Flavour
hang the bankers
that's already happening
chilango
Hypothetical Wanker
50c is unliveable without a huge change in our daily routines. Work - for example - will have to change beyond recognition.
lazythursday
Well-Known Member
not much point working when there is no food growing
That's ultimately the main issue with the crisis we are facing. But this basic point that we depend on functioning ecosystems seems completely invisible to most people. I think there have been huge mistakes in how the impacts of climate change have been presented - sea level rise, while disruptive, seems a minor hassle in comparison.
Flavour
hang the bankers
as lazythursday said, 50° is unliveable anyway, because of the ecosystemic collapse it will provoke
Artaxerxes
Look out, he's got a gnu!
Honestly the last couple of years have made me really worry just about the domestic climate here.
I’ve known winter was changing for a while but the fucked up springs and summers are really concerning me. What’s that doing to our wildlife and crops
50c is unliveable as a whole, but not as a peak temperature in the hottest parts of the world, which is what I was talking about. 50c in that sense is what we’re already seeing and we still have food, and people still live in the areas that are peaking at 50c. However, 60c in those same areas is likely to be literally uninhabitable, and that will likely happen if global warming as a whole hits 2.5c.
The point I’m making is that “1.5c” and “2.5c” don’t sound that dramatic on the face of it (and they don’t sound too dissimilar either), but they disguise really dramatic (different) alterations of peak seasonal temperatures.
The point I’m making is that “1.5c” and “2.5c” don’t sound that dramatic on the face of it (and they don’t sound too dissimilar either), but they disguise really dramatic (different) alterations of peak seasonal temperatures.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
you know when they say we're living in an age of extinction, what they're talking about?
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