Just Stop Oil

[Pickman's model]

I didn’t propose it though in fact I criticised it?

The question mark tells me all I need to know

 

[Magnus McGinty]

Wasn’t he also supposed to be celibate whilst secretly fucking some of his followers? Jesus.

 

[Artaxerxes]

The question mark tells me all I need to know

Good, I’m glad we agree your post was confusing!

 

[Pickman's model]

Wasn’t he also supposed to be celibate whilst secretly fucking some of his followers? Jesus.

Would this be the same ghandi who recruited for the British army?

 

[editor]

Wasn’t he also supposed to be celibate whilst secretly fucking some of his followers? Jesus.

Well, there's some king size whataboutery, right there.

 

[edcraw]

Would this be the same ghandi who recruited for the British army?

Love it!! Some people will literally attack anyone that protests against anything to discredit them.

 

[Pickman's model]

Love it!! Some people will literally attack anyone that protests against anything to discredit them.

It's a simple statement of fact, I didn't draw any conclusions from it. But I should have done.

 

[Pickman's model]

Love it!! Some people will literally attack anyone that protests against anything to discredit them.

Yer man was a racist too Coming to terms with Gandhi’s complicated legacy strange people you elevate to heroes

 

[edcraw]

Yer man was a racist too Coming to terms with Gandhi’s complicated legacy strange people you elevate to heroes

Time to being back the Raj!

 

[Pickman's model]

Time to being back the Raj!

Disappointed but not surprised that's the level of your thought. Obviously you know fuck all about the Indian campaign for independence

 

[edcraw]

Disappointed but not surprised that's the level of your thought. Obviously you know fuck all about the Indian campaign for independence

Apologies - but at least I know why this on Milkwood Rd was renamed!

 

[Red Sky]

Au contraire. There are a host of things they could do that would win not only my backing but also widespread support but atm their tactics are imo really rather substitutionist and to say it again unlikely to win the support the cause deserves.

Show us how it's done.

 

[Pickman's model]

Show us how it's done.

Rather than targeting people going about their daily business they could for example target oil company execs and politicians. You've a long history of activism, I'm sure you could think of other targets

 

[Pickman's model]

Apologies - but at least I know why this on Milkwood Rd was renamed!

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I'm not entirely persuaded you do

 

[Red Sky]

Rather than targeting people going about their daily business they could for example target oil company execs and politicians. You've a long history of activism, I'm sure you could think of other targets

Sure, but as I'm not putting my megaplan into action I'm not going to piss on JSOs bonfire.

 

[edcraw]

Rather than targeting people going about their daily business they could for example target oil company execs and politicians. You've a long history of activism, I'm sure you could think of other targets

Worth remembering that the twat kicking the guy in the head doesn’t seem to have been disrupted by them and in fact appears to be stopping a van driver.

 

[Pickman's model]

Worth remembering that the twat kicking the guy in the head doesn’t seem to have been disrupted by them and in fact appears to be stopping a van driver.

One count of obstructing the highway then

 

[Pickman's model]

Sure, but as I'm not putting my megaplan into action I'm not going to piss on JSOs bonfire.

That's an ostensibly persuasive argument until you actually think about it.

 

[Red Sky]

That's an ostensibly persuasive argument until you actually think about it.

What's the flaw?

 

[Pickman's model]

What's the flaw?

For starters your view that to criticise something you've got to have some concrete alternative plan you're going to put into effect

 

[chilango]

Maybe not all of you can make it out but in between kicks the red cap guy is shouting "Fucking liberals!The only way to combat climate change is worker's defence squads!"

 

[Red Sky]

For starters your view that to criticise something you've got to have some concrete alternative plan you're going to put into effect

I think it's quite an important principle.

 

[Pickman's model]

I think it's quite an important principle.

I don't agree. To take one example, you don't need to be in, to wish to join, or to establish a revolutionary organisation to critique groups like the swp without your criticism losing any of its value

 

[edcraw]

Fake vicar Calvin Robinson currently on R4 arguing against JSO tactics. Imagine agreeing with that twat on anything!?!

 

[LDC]

Good to see you back on here Red Sky!

 

[platinumsage]

Fake vicar Calvin Robinson currently on R4 arguing against JSO tactics. Imagine agreeing with that twat on anything!?!

Are you a flat-earther?

 

[redsquirrel]

Time to being back the Raj!

This is as silly as binary as platinumsage comes out with.

There's plenty of criticisms to be made of Gandhi which do not default to a defence of the British empire. And he did hold some dodgy racial views.
Likewise (friendly) criticism of non-violent civil disobedience does not mean one opposes everything JSO do or aim for.

 

[edcraw]

Are you a flat-earther?

How is GB News these days Platty?

Admire your faith that the cosplaying vicar actually believes in a round Earth!

 

[edcraw]

Fake vicar Calvin Robinson currently on R4 arguing against JSO tactics. Imagine agreeing with that twat on anything!?!

Yes there are - but people bringing them up in this thread to somehow discredit non-violent is bizarre.

 

[platinumsage]

Admire your faith that the cosplaying vicar actually believes in a round Earth!

I'm pretty sure he hasn't claimed to be a vicar because he's a deacon, and the FCE is considered a genuine church by the CofE.

If you're going to criticise him arguing against JSO tactics you should probably try a bit harder.