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July 2005 London bomb blasts: UPDATES AND NEWS ONLY - NO DISCUSSION

fariy nuff are they 100% sure there informaition is reliable, i'm not doubting you or your friends trust levels just their information details as in where has this come from ....
 
noodles said:
Eveidence? Sources?

I work in the City and Thursday lunchtime me and a mate decided to walk around and see what was going on. Apart from there being absolutely no traffic on the roads the other interesting thing was that we bumped in to an old colleague of my friend. We got chatting and he asked us 'if we had heard about the suicide bomber that got shot at canary warf'.

Not sure how he found out, he works at Lloyd's.
 
The more this 'suicide bomber shot at Canary Wharf' story does the rounds the more I think it's apocryphal. My wife - a teacher with no links to anyone 'in the know' - heard the same story in her staff room. I won't buy it until one of the national papers (not the Sun or Star) starts taking it seriously.
 
swampy said:
Not sure how he found out, he works at Lloyd's.

He read it on the interweb?

We know there's an Urban Legend. Some of Friday's postings made me think there might be actual primary sources, but they never showed up.

Early this morning I was told that a friend of a friend of a friend had seen the shooting on Friday. So it's definitely acquiring Urban Legend characterstics.

I guess the only way is to report it as fact somewhere with a wide readership and see whether I get arrested :D
 
GarfieldLeChat said:
fariy nuff are they 100% sure there informaition is reliable, i'm not doubting you or your friends trust levels just their information details as in where has this come from ....
I understand, some guy on the net saying things like this is hardly credible. I know this person and they aren't what I'd call high up in the police ranks but they're high enough to know about this type of thing.
 
Kid_Eternity said:
I understand, some guy on the net saying things like this is hardly credible. I know this person and they aren't what I'd call high up in the police ranks but they're high enough to know about this type of thing.

Coppers (of all ranks) are sadly just as prone to believe and spread rumours as anyone else. First hand knowledge, OK. Otherwise doubtful. Can't really see The Mirror (based in Canary Wharf with many other papers) not being aware if it were real (you shoot a suicide bomber you have a massive operation whilst defusing the body ...) and agreeing to a cover up. Specific operational reasons are acceptable to the media (e.g. ongoing kidnap or blackmail enquiries) but not on this scale where they would definitely go with the public need to know.

And why no first hand accounts on the internet anywhere? Or did it all take place with the assistance of some form of cloaking device?
 
My friend was in HSBC tower there on Thursday and she didn't see a thing. Security was stepped up, as the area is regarded as a target but they all went out a lunchtime, as normal, in Canada Square and didn't see anything untoward.
 
dur...

they just flashed one of those memory forgetting, er, whatever they're called thingys

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It's jus sooooo obvious
 
detective-boy said:
Coppers (of all ranks) are sadly just as prone to believe and spread rumours as anyone else. First hand knowledge, OK. Otherwise doubtful. Can't really see The Mirror (based in Canary Wharf with many other papers) not being aware if it were real (you shoot a suicide bomber you have a massive operation whilst defusing the body ...) and agreeing to a cover up. Specific operational reasons are acceptable to the media (e.g. ongoing kidnap or blackmail enquiries) but not on this scale where they would definitely go with the public need to know.

And why no first hand accounts on the internet anywhere? Or did it all take place with the assistance of some form of cloaking device?
It was reported by the police initially then retracted because of the panic it could cause. I don't expect anyone to believe a word I'm saying (hell i'd probably not believe it if someone else came out with this) but as far as i'm concerned it happened.
 
Kid_Eternity said:
It was reported by the police initially then retracted because of the panic it could cause.

:confused: Which police? Where? The only reason it would be retracted and any media would suddenly forget it is if it were found to be false.
 
detective-boy said:
:confused: Which police? Where? The only reason it would be retracted and any media would suddenly forget it is if it were found to be false.
Or they were ordered too. Anyway, I've said what I wanted, can't really go into much more on a public board. I'm completly fine with people not believing it if that is there wish but just wanted to make sure that those that did had something along the lines of accurate info.
 
Hmmmmmm. There are thousands of people at Canary Wharf on an average week day. I'm guessing 99% of them have got camera phones. And not one single picture..... :confused:

And even if the media were sworn to silence, this is the age of the internet - not one single site with a picture related to this "incident"?

I'm far from convinced.
 
Again it's just a few words but the story is definatley getting about...

Canary Wharf Shooting

...the only news being 'POLICE were yesterday probing reports a man had been "neutralised" outside Canary Wharf.' and the location 'Is is believed the man was shot dead by police marksmen outside the Credit Suisse First Boston bank.'

I wonder if the person who posted earlier saying a collegue and 5 friends saying they saw the event could cross reference the location with them?
 
Some bonkers racist-sounding bloke on Jon Gaunt was just banging on about how Paddick was once posting on an "anarchist website" and questioning his current police role.

To his credit, Gaunt corrected him and accurately explained Paddick's comments about anarchism. And gave the site - and me! - a nice namecheck!
 
i saw a pic in the papers yesterday of people leaving flowers outside kings cross, it looked like there were quite a lot there already. does anyone know exactly where this is, and if the flowers will be left there for the foreseeable future? Photo and i would like to go and leave some after work today.
 
Kid_Eternity said:
It was reported by the police initially then retracted because of the panic it could cause.

I can't quite get my head around this. Why would they report it and then retract it? Why would the prevention of a further attack create any more panic than was existent in the immediate aftermath of 3 bombs on tubes and a blown up bus?

I have to say this strikes me as a wind-up perpetrated by some jocks in the City. A few texts here, a few emails there, and hey presto an urban myth is born.
 
Just heard on Radio1 that the helpline to give information to families is costing 40p a minute!!!! :eek:
 
kea said:
i saw a pic in the papers yesterday of people leaving flowers outside kings cross, it looked like there were quite a lot there already. does anyone know exactly where this is, and if the flowers will be left there for the foreseeable future? Photo and i would like to go and leave some after work today.

Yeah, it's on the corner of York Way (to the right of the station as you look at it. There's a cordoned off area set aside.
 
Loki said:
erm, there definitely are zillions of rats living in the London Underground.

After nearly 20 years of working on the undergound - this includes working at night down tunnels on most lines - i've never so much as seen a rat dropping - never mind a rat. On the other hand - the place is absolutely infested with mice.
 
Major Tom said:
After nearly 20 years of working on the undergound - this includes working at night down tunnels on most lines - i've never so much as seen a rat dropping - never mind a rat. On the other hand - the place is absolutely infested with mice.
My neighbour is an engineer on the tracks, he is down the tunnels all the time, sometimes all night long and he has never seen a rat, ever.
 
Stobart Stopper said:
My neighbour is an engineer on the tracks, he is down the tunnels all the time, sometimes all night long and he has never seen a rat, ever.

As a mere passenger, I have: but only downstairs at Bank (where the Northern Line dives under the river, for non-Londoners) and at Wapping (where the East London Line ditto). I suspect they're river rats.

Upstairs at Bank is strictly mice, as I noted earlier.
 
MOSCOW (Reuters) - An explosion tore through a shop in northern Russia on Monday, killing 16 people, the Emergencies Ministry said. "The explosion took place in a two-story brick building. We are trying to discover the reason," said ministry spokesman Viktor Beltsov. He said the blast was in Ukhta, a town in the Komi region around 1,500 km (930 miles) northeast of Moscow.
Reuters
 
does anyone know anything about a controlled explosion in hackney?, someone at work mentioned it, said that a controlled explosion was carried out on a bus in hackney on thursday...
 
Loki said:
Well I can't say I've worked on the tube. But...

"Rats and other vermin infest the tunnel."

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,22989-1688888,00.html

I always heard stories from some of the older track workers - the same story with variation about finding some huge rat's nest with hundreds of rats, tails entwined, the size of cats etc. but experience doesn't bear this out.

I've never seen one, never heard of a part of the tube where rats are a particular problem (unlike mice), or found anyone who has seen more than the odd rat in the tunnels.

Having kept rats as pets, I doubt that the underground tunnels are very good for rats, they prefer somewhere where they've got access to the outdoors. So you get them much more on railtrack or on the open sections of the Underground - I saw many of the buggers - huge too - running about on woolwich BR station platform once.

I suspect that it's more the case of the newspapers not letting truth get in the way of a good story.
 
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