Joey Barton Talks With Hilarious French Accent After Debut For Marseille
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Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
no, he's learning french.
gentlegreen
I hummus, therefore I am ...
Perhaps he should try to learn English as a second language.
Balbi
Hey, Dean Yager!
I think Joseph Barton is a complex and oft misunderstood young man. I also think he will turn into a good and wise man once he has worked through his 'issues'.
I will enjoy saying 'I told you so' in years to come when young Joseph is renowned for his philanthropic works.
I will enjoy saying 'I told you so' in years to come when young Joseph is renowned for his philanthropic works.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
And a Professorship in Linguistics - Chomsky's shitting himself.
DexterTCN
Troy and Abed in the morning
Don't know about that but I know entertainment when I see it. In that he excels...a sad commentary on, well, me.
Deareg
Well-Known Member
If he worked on a building site and you lived next door to him I bet that like the rest of us you would just think he was a horrible bastard.
If he worked on a building site and you lived next door to him I bet that like the rest of us you would just think he was a horrible bastard.
Au contraire mon ami. Like yourself, I have encountered many, many workmates just like Monsieur Barton (most of whose capacity for violence - especially of a Friday night - would leave Joseph looking like a social worker). Their inability to control their temper (in fairness, mostly when provoked) and propensity for casual, but brutal violence did not stop them being sound lads... nor preclude them making fine men once they had matured a bit.
You know fuckin loads of them too... we also know quite a few who did not make it... through drink, drugs or indeed vilence... and a couple who have transitioned... but only from angry young men to bitter old bastards
I wasn't aware young Joseph had any pretensions to be a budding Chomsky.
Both J Barton Esquire and other posters have provided perfectly logical and reasonable explanations for his foray into 'allo 'allo territory.
That you deliberate choose to dismiss them speaks volumes about you, rather than JB.
co-op
But....but cLoWnFiSh....
I'm with LiamO and OU here. I've lived and worked abroad, you just use what everyone else uses, if that's cod english with a silly accent that's how you speak, at least a bit. Also, this may sound daft but it really is a way to get into how another language works what words they miss out, what word order they use - that all helps getting yourself into how their language works. It can make you sound like a prat though. Years ago I was teaching English in Cairo with some Japanese guys and when I spoke to them on the phone I'd lapse into engrish and I'd have the piss ripped out of me by people listening in England, but especially on the phone, it made it a lot easier to understand.
Fair play to Joey on the scouse accent call too - even decent english speakers in France are going to struggle with that one.
Fair play to Joey on the scouse accent call too - even decent english speakers in France are going to struggle with that one.
Deareg
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I think that you have read him wrong Liam, he may have a problem with his temper but does not have a problem controlling his violence and I do not believe that he he is prone to violent outbursts, rather he is a spoiled nasty bastard who picks his targets, which if you look at his victims they will bear testament, youth team players and young men outside fast food takeaways, even when he has transgressed on the pitch it is mostly for show,I think he enjoys the negative attention (which maybe points to a separate issue) and the image of being a bad boy, as you said we both have known plenty of people who were genuinely prone to violent outbursts and you know as well me that when they did lose it they were either very difficult or outright impossible to stop, and when they did kickoff it was mostly with people of equal stature or bigger and sometimes greater numbers, that was proper losing it mate when they gave no consideration to the consequences of their actions.
I think that he is a spoiled bastard with a bit of a nasty streak, I also think that he is a bully and a shithouse who if not blessed with a talent would be a fucking nightmare to live beside.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Christ, man, lighten up.
Gingerman
Is a great bunch of lads.....
Jan Molby developed a rather fine Scandie-Scouse accentdietmar hamann's accent makes me smile - sort of euro-scouse
Balbi
Hey, Dean Yager!
You remember the squealing of a rewinding tape cassette? That's it.
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
Joey Barton is not a scouser ffs - he is from Huyton (two dogs fightin) which is in Knowsley 
Liam O is spot on about the lad btw.
Liam O is spot on about the lad btw.
I'll get back to you on the rest of your post but for now... here is the bad news... Joseph Barton was/is not 'blessed with a talent'.
Like all professional athletes, he got where he is by purposeful practice, hard work and extreme dedication. Now I understand why some people 'hate' him and I fully realise it rubs people up the wrong way when people we don't like are successful beyond our sporting dreams. But that does not alter the fact that getting to where Barton is takes a massive amount of guts and psychological resilience.
Yes it would have been better for him had his youth coaches had a bit more cop on and not indulged all that 'If you take the aggression out of his game he won't be the same player' bolloxology - but they clearly did not. Joe Barton has succeeded despite his behaviour and attitude, rather than because of it... and I sincerely believe he will have much to offer young people in the future... just like another much-maligned fella, Craig Bellamy.
Yes. It is.
Until some spoilsport goes and spolis it all by supplying a little context. Selfish bastards.
Deareg
Well-Known Member
Anyone who makes the grade as a professional athlete of just about any sport is blessed with a talent otherwise millions more of us would be getting paid to be athletes, particularly footballers, without that natural talent he would not be living the lifestyle that he is or playing at the level that he is, but it still requires hard work and dedication to get there, even more so to reach the level Barton has reached, many waste that talent, I know of a few myself who should have played football at a pro level but did not have the right mental attitude/strength.
I don't actually hate him despite what I think about him, I just think mostly he is a dickhead.
and that's the key. It's in the mind not in the 'natural talent'.
The science disagrees with you on 'natural talent' - it is mostly a myth invented by those of us who can't be arsed putting in the hours to become 'experts'.
See; Malcolm Gladwell - Outliers; Dan Coyle - The Talent Code (also http://thetalentcode.com/) ; Carole Dweck - Mindset; Mathew Syed - Bounce; Dr John Ratey - Spark; etc etc etc
http://au.fourfourtwo.com/Features/6785,the-talent-myth.aspx
DexterTCN
Troy and Abed in the morning
So....your opinion on Barton is backed up by books...and science?
Hard work'll get you far, hard work and talent will get you further.
So....your opinion on Barton is backed up by books...and science?
No. My opinion on the myth of talent is backed up by Science - neuroscience as well as psychology.
Keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better about your own lack of achievement, you waster.
twistedAM
Left Of The Dial
Mmmmm, you can't quite predict the future but one thing I'll say for the guy that is one of the very few who have spoken out on homophobia in football.
mattie
missing in inaction
'Ou est la piscine-la?'
I've been following his twitter since just after he moved to QPR. He seems to have a fairly voracious mind. He was overwhelmed when he first moved to london and started learning all he could about the place and in particular the art world. now he's doing the same in france, this time learning all he can about the french, their culture, their language. he had it written into his contract that he would have his own personal french tutor.
he's a bit of tosspot but he seems to have his heart mostly in the right place.
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