Jeremy Corbyn's time is up

[two sheds]

Yep, agree with all of that. Not sure whether I'll vote next time, but tory government in charge of Brexit and NHS sell-off and the like will be part of the equation.

I quite like the idea of break up of the UK though. Scotland, Wales, the North and Cornwall if we all want to go our own way along with unified Ireland would be favoured result.

 

[rummo]

Yep, agree with all of that. Not sure whether I'll vote next time, but tory government in charge of Brexit and NHS sell-off and the like will be part of the equation.

I quite like the idea of break up of the UK though. Scotland, Wales, the North and Cornwall if we all want to go our own way along with unified Ireland would be favoured result.

You can forget Wales, Cornwall and the North, just not feasible, but Scotland will probably leave (a bad thing) and Ireland will probably be reunited eventually (a good thing).

 

[two sheds]

I don't want to forget Wales, Cornwall and the North

 

[Pickman's model]

Yep, agree with all of that. Not sure whether I'll vote next time, but tory government in charge of Brexit and NHS sell-off and the like will be part of the equation.

I quite like the idea of break up of the UK though. Scotland, Wales, the North and Cornwall if we all want to go our own way along with unified Ireland would be favoured result.

a greater united ireland, with scotland, wales, the north and cornwall all governed from dublin might just work.

 

[two sheds]

".... it might just work Carruthers"

 

[Pickman's model]

I don't want to forget Wales, Cornwall and the North

i bet you don't remember deira and wihtwara

 

[Sprocket.]

i bet you don't remember deira and wihtwara

Elmet prevails!

 

[Kevbad the Bad]

a greater united ireland, with scotland, wales, the north and cornwall all governed from dublin might just work.

I just hope Cornwall annexes my part of West Devon.

 

[two sheds]

i bet you don't remember deira and wihtwara

:compulsory Sas joke:

I do remember Greater Cornwall incorporating Bristol though

 

[Pickman's model]

I just hope Cornwall annexes my part of West Devon.

prince charles, the duke of cornwall, will summon the fyrd for just this purpose

 

[killer b]

Isn't Cornwall solid tory though? I wouldn't want to be trapped with those fuckers.

 

[kebabking]

a greater united ireland, with scotland, wales, the north and cornwall all governed from dublin might just work.

Been(ish) done before of course...

 

[two sheds]

Isn't Cornwall solid tory though? I wouldn't want to be trapped with those fuckers.

True - Truro and Falmouth where I am was almost close though.

ad there's a strong Lib Dem component

 

[JTG]

Isn't Cornwall solid tory though? I wouldn't want to be trapped with those fuckers.

Both Falmouth & Truro and Camborne & Redruth constituencies are close enough to be conceivably Labour in a good year. The old Falmouth & Camborne seat was held by Candy Atherton for Labour between 97 & 05 before being lost to the Lib Dems

 

[JTG]

Most of us don't live in swing seats so it makes little difference other than sending vague smoke signals into the ether

I'm in swingy Bristol NW - until '17 it had gone with the winning party for the previous 40 years. Won by Labour the past two elections so not a bellwether any more but still only a majority of c5,000. Darren Jones was surprised to win in '17 - he's on the right of the party, though manages not to be too openly offensive to the left, he just ignores them. Had huge support in canvassing and GOTV from the Momentum left in Bristol to win and then hold his seat despite it being clear that there's no love lost on either side of the equation. The CLP is some way to the left of him, passed the Corbyn motion last week and plenty in the CLP would happily ditch him if they could. For his part he has actively courted anti-Brexit Tories & Lib Dem voters, sends out mail with zero Labour branding at all and is probably better thought of in the more well heeled parts of the constituency than in the trad Labour estates that were more Brexity.

So, having happily delivered his leaflets, knocked on doors and voted for him in order to try and secure a Corbyn government, I can't see myself doing the same on any of those scores next time and the same probably goes for a lot of other people in the area. If that means he loses to a Tory, well, that's not something that moves me tbh

 

[Smokeandsteam]

I know it’s largely meaningless but I actually feel sorry for Corbyn. This is brutal humiliation (apologise for pointing out that this was weaponised to harm you and apologise to those who have knowingly smeared you and your record of anti-racism for good).

But, Corbyn is a prisoner of the dead zone that is the Labour Party and he’s a prisoner of his own relativist politics. To those of you - for whom night is day - and who want to keep fighting within in it to recover an imagined socialist past the message to you is clear - if they can do it to him they’ll certainly be able to do it to you.

 

[rummo]

I know it’s largely meaningless but I actually feel sorry for Corbyn. This is brutal humiliation (apologise for pointing out that this was weaponised to harm you and apologise to those who have knowingly smeared you and your record of anti-racism for good).

But, Corbyn is a prisoner of the dead zone that is the Labour Party and he’s a prisoner of his own relativist politics. To those of you - for whom night is day - and who want to keep fighting within in it to recover an imagined socialist past the message to you is clear - if they can do it to him they’ll certainly be able to do it to you.

I wouldn't disagree, but that isn't a new staement, it's what he said on the day he was suspended. So it's not like he's come under renewed pressure to capitulate.

 

[sleaterkinney]

I wouldn't disagree, but that isn't a new staement, it's what he said on the day he was suspended. So it's not like he's come under renewed pressure to capitulate.

Didn’t his statement on the day the report came out say AS in Labour was exaggerated?. This one says the opposite.

 

[Smokeandsteam]

Didn’t his statement on the day the report came out say AS in Labour was exaggerated?. This one says the opposite.

Exactly. As the commentariat are now gleefully pointing out

 

[ska invita]

I know it’s largely meaningless but I actually feel sorry for Corbyn. This is brutal humiliation (apologise for pointing out that this was weaponised to harm you and apologise to those who have knowingly smeared you and your record of anti-racism for good).

But, Corbyn is a prisoner of the dead zone that is the Labour Party and he’s a prisoner of his own relativist politics. To those of you - for whom night is day - and who want to keep fighting within in it to recover an imagined socialist past the message to you is clear - if they can do it to him they’ll certainly be able to do it to you.

theres always someone trying to do it to you tbf

Didn’t his statement on the day the report came out say AS in Labour was exaggerated?. This one says the opposite.

this one doesnt mention the exaggeration/weaponisation at all

 

[sleaterkinney]

Exactly. As the commentariat are now gleefully pointing out

There’s no glee, he should have kept his trap shut that day and accepted the report and moved on rather than have a dig about the media and conspiracies.
Should have been a day for the whole party to move on, now the left has that to gripe about.

 

[butchersapron]

There’s no glee, he should have kept his trap shut that day and accepted the report and moved on rather than have a dig about the media and conspiracies.
Should have been a day for the whole party to move on, now the left has that to gripe about.

Which CLP are you in slearer?

 

[JTG]

Talk of the party "moving on" is purely for public show. We're already seeing left electees to the NEC being pursued for similar stuff and EHRC recommendations being set aside for the benefit of the current ruling clique. The party doesn't 'move on' because the party is contested ground and all factions know this well enough

 

[sleaterkinney]

Which CLP are you in slearer?

Is that a prerequisite batcher?

 

[butchersapron]

Is that a prerequisite batcher?

Well, you often talk of voting of effects that votes have on in your area. In the UK EU referendum where did you vote? You get where i'm going with this so won't answer. Always a trail.

 

[sleaterkinney]

Well, you often talk of voting of effects that votes have on in your area.

What does that even mean?

In the UK EU referendum where did you vote? You get where i'm going with this so won't answer. Always a trail.

I voted at the local school, i have no idea where you're going, some more of your usual crypto bollocks i presume.

 

[butchersapron]

What does that even mean?
I voted at the local school, i have no idea where you're going, some more of your usual crypto bollocks i presume.

Uh huh. So you voted in the UK then? Trail in mind of course...

 

[sleaterkinney]

Uh huh. So you voted in the UK then? Trail in mind of course...

I live in the UK.

 

[butchersapron]

I live in the UK.

Well done.

 

[sleaterkinney]

Well done.

Thanks. Should people have an opinion on politicians and their actions, or is just limited to members of their parties?