Jeremy Corbyn's time is up
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steveseagull
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If only Labour had a decent lawyer with hindsight who could have read the report and seen this coming.
Raheem
Well-Known Member
Really? What do you think would have happened without Starmer's decisive action?
Shechemite
Be the sun and all will see you
Could have been Russian interference too
Shechemite
Be the sun and all will see you
things would have taken longer
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Starmer wasn't obliged to say anything more today than that he and his party take the report very seriously and will be acting on its recommendations, stressing that there is no place for anti-Semitism in the labour party. Just that, nothing more. He appears to have panicked.
It is the most eye poppingly DUMB move, it really is. And that's from a man who already has a series of incredibly dumb decisions behind him.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
tbh the Labour right generally appear to be high on their own supply and believing their own publicity. The ones with a history of losing elections before JC but who absolutely believe in their own genius for being massive winners. Tey're really not as clever as they think they are
tbh the Labour right generally appear to be high on their own supply and believing their own publicity. The ones with a history of losing elections before JC but who absolutely believe in their own genius for being massive winners. Tey're really not as clever as they think they are
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
Yes, only ‘experts’ who have the time to read long reports should be asked for their opinion.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
No, snap polls on breaking news are meaningless.
If they'd just asked 'do you like Jeremy Corbyn', they'd have got about the same numbers.
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
Thats a different point. Do you think ‘hot takes’ on Twitter are also meaningless?
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
I have no idea what that is. And it's not a different point at all.
pseudonarcissus
fluttering and dancing
Starmer was desperately trying to equivocate and do nothing about Corbyn today. Corbyn had to do one of two things today....maintain a dignified silence, or make a dignified statement thanking the commission for its efforts and saying he would study the report ....but no...he has to go on Facebook to say he’s the most wronged politician since Donald fucking Trump....wronged by the media and wronged by dark forces.
its about the “optics” today. Jeremy is terrible at politics. I had though he was quite a nice man with his heart in the right place....I’m not so sure...he’s almost as narcissistic as Johnson.
sleaterkinney
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That’s not the point though, the only thing to do today was draw a line under it and accept it with no buts or maybes.
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
What they are is instant reactions from various members of the commentariat on breaking news that others like/retweet and comment on.
Kevbad the Bad
Amiable Bowel Syndrome
Why the fuck should he accept a flawed report which adds nothing new and demonstrates quite clearly how the investigating body is biased in the extreme and whose underlying assumptions are more than dubious?
Plumdaff
joy in people
Do people really think Starmer wouldn't have done this regardless of what Corbyn said? You can argue the toss about whether it was the best/wisest course of action to say what he said but honestly, is anyone going to seriously argue there has been no exaggeration of the issues for factional and political gain and that it's just to suspend someone from a political party merely for stating that, even if they accept the report in its entirety? A report, to reiterate, which explicitly protects the right to comment on the extent of AS within the party.
ska invita
back on the other side
i hear that but you cant be suspended because of "optics"
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planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
I think you've reached my peak couldn't give a shit with that.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
I was just typing a reply, but yours is better.
Treacle Toes
Time
So terrible at politics he continues to be reelected as a local MP for how long now?... and has personally weathered the most vitriolic, clearly personal, absurd and disturbing smear campaign i've seen in my lifetime...HE HAS BEEN WRONGED and has every right to speak out about that given the 'dignified silence' he maintained over the last years of daily vicious nonsense. He didn't contradict the report... sod you if you hate the idea of him so much you can't admit that.
Treacle Toes
Time
'Exceptionalism' really is a fucking arse of an expectation and the worse kind of emotionally immature and intellectually dishonest manipulation.
steveseagull
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Treacle Toes
Time
Of course he doesn't. But others should have today, even when they didn't actually contradict the findings of the very same report that they are being told they should have accepted, no ifs/buts or something.
FFS bed time.
pseudonarcissus
fluttering and dancing
I’d win Islington North if you pinned a red rosette on me!
He may well have been wronged, I’m not disputing that. Today was not the day to be on Facebook making ill-considered comments. Say something conciliatory or shut up, until next week at least.
steveseagull
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So had Corbyn stayed quiet, the bad faith actors would have harassed Starmer until an inch of his life until he sacked him.
Then when he was sacked the bad faith actors would have produced their next set of demands (as they did today, even demanding that the Deputy Leader is sacked)
Starmer is no leader, he is weak. Really, really weak. Corbyn gave a well deserved fuck you and spent the day doing TV interviews calling the bullshit out.
The current form of the Labour Party along with a vast part of the PLP really needs flushing down the sewer for eternity.
Then when he was sacked the bad faith actors would have produced their next set of demands (as they did today, even demanding that the Deputy Leader is sacked)
Starmer is no leader, he is weak. Really, really weak. Corbyn gave a well deserved fuck you and spent the day doing TV interviews calling the bullshit out.
The current form of the Labour Party along with a vast part of the PLP really needs flushing down the sewer for eternity.
steveseagull
Well-Known Member
You mean meekly give in to the inevitable abuse and smearing from bad faith actor's, the establishment media and the PLP which contains some of the worst people in the country.
You clearly do not know him well.
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