littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Given how this has been reported, I would wager that more than half of people interviewed will think that Corbyn broke the party procedures in order to stop cases of anti-Semitism from being heard.
Jeremy Corbyn's time is up
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planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
That cheese sandwich you just ate. Enough salad in it or not?
Fuck off with your visceral opinion polls.
Shechemite
Be the sun and all will see you
oh for gods sake you just don’t get how viscerally unattractive your politics are.
70% of leavers (more than Remainers incidentally) agreeing he should be suspended ia significant. I thought it was leavers who were the racists?
steveseagull
Well-Known Member
Starmer has dug himself a hole here. Corbyn let the socialism genie out of the bottle and it is not willingly going to go back in.
If anyone needs removing from the party by bad faith actors, they know Starmer is weak and will cave in and accept anything the party is accused of.
If anyone needs removing from the party by bad faith actors, they know Starmer is weak and will cave in and accept anything the party is accused of.
Shechemite
Be the sun and all will see you
Quite possibly. They probably had made their mind up about Corbyn prior to reading anything today
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
This report was released this morning. The first BBC report on it, which I reproduced on the other thread in full, gave the distinct impression that the report had found Corbyn guilty of breaking party rules in order to stymie anti-semitism moves against members. You now produce a snap poll in which more than 70% of respondents offer an opinion. How many of those 70% will have the first idea what the actual issues are about something that only broke in the news this morning, and about which the first reports on the BBC website were disgracefully misleading?
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
So you agree that your poll is meaningless?
Shechemite
Be the sun and all will see you
No you’re right. Those with less education and critical faculty than you have an issue with Corbyn because of the media told them to.
Shechemite
Be the sun and all will see you
So you agree that your poll is meaningless?
meaningless?
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Have a little think. Do you think anything like 70% of the population will have an informed opinion about this piece of breaking news? Of course not. I wouldn't if I hadn't been skiving from work a bit this morning.
Also, does it matter that the BBC misreports breaking news like this? Yes, I think it rather does.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Yes. Meaningless.
Treacle Toes
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DaveCinzano
WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!
The long-legged prick was probably stretching out over two seats as well, the arsehole
sleaterkinney
Well-Known Member
If he’d just accepted the report it would be fine but going on about political motivations gave starmer no choice.
two sheds
Least noticed poster 2007
The long-legged prick was probably stretching out over two seats as well, the arsehole
I agree which makes it 100% and unanimous
Raheem
Well-Known Member
I forgot to include the options but, yes, that would be one.The long-legged prick was probably stretching out over two seats as well, the arsehole
Shechemite
Be the sun and all will see you
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
Shechemite
Be the sun and all will see you
Maybe he could have described the report as hysterically overstated? Histrionic?
Lacking the British stiff upper lip
Lacking the British stiff upper lip
Treacle Toes
Time
He has not contradicted the report has he? There were political motivations involved on top of legitimate concerns. Wall to wall attacks and slander of him over years, come on now... Starmer is a fucking coward and would fold under an inch of the same pressure that was levelled at Corbyn personally rather than the 'party' and it's shortcomings.
Kevbad the Bad
Amiable Bowel Syndrome
Yeah. The bastard actually gave his own honest opinion. Gave Starmer no choice.
steveseagull
Well-Known Member
The Campaign Against Antisemitism has predictably issued Starmer with a list of people they want expelling.
Dianne Abbott,
Rebecca Long-Bailey,
Tahir Ali,
Mike Amesbury,
Apsana Begum,
Richard Burgon,
Barry Gardiner,
Kate Hollern,
Afzal Khan,
Angela Rayner,
Steve Reed,
Lloyd Russell-Moyle, B
Barry Sheerman,
Zarah Sultana
& others.
Dianne Abbott,
Rebecca Long-Bailey,
Tahir Ali,
Mike Amesbury,
Apsana Begum,
Richard Burgon,
Barry Gardiner,
Kate Hollern,
Afzal Khan,
Angela Rayner,
Steve Reed,
Lloyd Russell-Moyle, B
Barry Sheerman,
Zarah Sultana
& others.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Exactly. He hasn't contradicted the report. The BBC initially reported in such a manner as to strongly suggest that he had. Starmer came out and spoke as if he had as well.
And is anybody on this thread going to claim that the anti-Semitism row wasn't exploited by poltical opponents of Corbyn within and outside labour and large parts of the press (Guardian, looking at you). It's laughable to claim that this part of what he said isn't true.
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Raheem
Well-Known Member
Actually, I would have ticked "This is fine if they were corned beef".Three out of three
steveseagull
Well-Known Member
He did. You have either not read the report or you have read the Guardian/BBC's version of it.
Treacle Toes
Time
Yeah cos 'All Britons' were asked. ( see the YouGOV tweet breakdown for reference)
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