Jeremy Corbyn's time is up

[NoXion]

Maybe JC could MC? View attachment 223555

Do you really think sharing this kind of shit helps at all?

 

[andysays]

Do you really think sharing this kind of shit helps at all?

It has appeared to me for some time that MadeInBedlam isn't really interested in "helping" with regard to the whole Corbyn/anti semitism debacle, rather he's more inclined to throw any shit at the wall, whatever its origin and and without any consideration of its accuracy, and shout "look at this!".

I understand it's an issue he has strong feelings about, but not sure that's really any excuse/justification

 

[oryx]

The antics of the Labour right (and others) in continuing to smear Corbyn even now he's returned to the back benches are just vindictive and pathetic.

 

[platinumsage]

Imagine if Labour's move to the left had been led by someone who wasn't such a miserable cunt as Corbyn. He managed to make Gordon Brown seem jovial while having not one ounce of the intellect of Michael Foot.

Years of an effectively unopposed Tory party and then Starmer, that's his legacy.

 

[two sheds]

Imagine if Labour's move to the left had been led by someone who wasn't such a miserable cunt as Corbyn. He managed to make Gordon Brown seem jovial while having not one ounce of the intellect of Michael Foot.

Years of an effectively unopposed Tory party and then Starmer, that's his legacy.

Can't find the whole clip but this last bit shows what a miserable cunt he really is. You can tell why there's such visceral hatred of him right here

 

[Pickman's model]

Imagine if Labour's move to the left had been led by someone who wasn't such a miserable cunt as Corbyn. He managed to make Gordon Brown seem jovial while having not one ounce of the intellect of Michael Foot.

Years of an effectively unopposed Tory party and then Starmer, that's his legacy.

To be fair at least JC never tried to defend the wretch Dominic Cummings. You by contrast...

So you will appreciate why I treat your opinion on this matter with the respect it merits.

 

[platinumsage]

Can't find the whole clip but this last bit shows what a miserable cunt he really is. You can tell why there's such visceral hatred of him right here

Any fool can cheer their own troops.

Can you imagine him debating a Tory like this, instead of his typical angry dad mode:

 

[platinumsage]

To be fair at least JC never tried to defend the wretch Dominic Cummings. You by contrast...

So you will appreciate why I treat your opinion on this matter with the respect it merits.

I did no such thing, but if it matters to you so much, instead of stalking me around the forums with it disrupting other threads, when not start a new thread (permission to do a call-out thread), or use PMs?

 

[platinumsage]

Everything Corbyn espoused as Leader he set back by at least twenty years. A total failure.

 

[Badgers]

What a monster he is

 

[belboid]

is typical angry dad mode:

you've never seen him speak for more than ten seconds, have you? Even for you this is rather silly

 

[platinumsage]

you've never seen him speak for more than ten seconds, have you? Even for you this is rather silly

I've never seen him engage in cogent debate with a Tory in the manner of Michael Foot, but then he doesn't have the intellect to do that. The result is just grumpy ranting, meaning any decent arguments he may have totally fail to persuade anyone who wasn't already persuaded.

 

[belboid]

I've never seen him engage in cogent debate with a Tory in the manner of Michael Foot, but then he doesn't have the intellect to do that. The result is just grumpy ranting, meaning any decent arguments he may have totally fail to persuade anyone who wasn't already persuaded.

you could just have said 'no' But you seem to think being loquacious equals being intelligent. It doesn't.

And you'd have been slagging of Michael Foot in exactly the same way as your are Corbyn if we were actually back in the eighties.

 

[krtek a houby]

Imagine if Labour's move to the left had been led by someone who wasn't such a miserable cunt as Corbyn. He managed to make Gordon Brown seem jovial while having not one ounce of the intellect of Michael Foot.

Years of an effectively unopposed Tory party and then Starmer, that's his legacy.

He energised thousands of people to vote for Labour in the previous election. He was screwed by the right, both within and without the party. Yeah, he wasn't media savvy and didn't act sooner on wrong uns, but fuck that shit about his demeanor.

 

[SpookyFrank]

The result is just grumpy ranting...

Did you plagiarise this from a review of your own posts on urban?

 

[Pickman's model]

I've never seen him engage in cogent debate with a Tory in the manner of Michael Foot, but then he doesn't have the intellect to do that. The result is just grumpy ranting, meaning any decent arguments he may have totally fail to persuade anyone who wasn't already persuaded.

This not seeing him debate with a Tory, wouldn't have anything to do with Johnson's craven refusal to debate with him during the election I suppose. You lay the blame for Johnson's no show on Corbyn. Pisspoor.

 

[platinumsage]

He energised thousands of people to vote for Labour in the previous election. He was screwed by the right, both within and without the party. Yeah, he wasn't media savvy and didn't act sooner on wrong uns, but fuck that shit about his demeanor.

He energised thousands of people to vote for Labour, but that's because the country was ripe for a left-wing government. Any half-decent leader on a similar platform could have energised thousands more, including those necessary to win an election.

 

[platinumsage]

This not seeing him debate with a Tory, wouldn't have anything to do with Johnson's craven refusal to debate with him I suppose. You lay the blame for Johnson's no show on Corbyn. Pisspoor.

No, I mean any debate, from PMQs with May and Johnson, through to slightly right-wing questions from BBC journalists. Useless.

 

[JimW]

HE should have been more of a lad like everyone's mate Johnson: regular racist quips, arrange a beating down the phone, knock up your employees, what a bundle of fun.

 

[Pickman's model]

No, I mean any debate, from PMQs with May and Johnson, through to slightly right-wing questions from BBC journalists. Useless.

PMQs isn't a debate. It is as the q suggests questions. And politicians of any stripe don't debate with journos

 

[krtek a houby]

He energised thousands of people to vote for Labour, but that's because the country was ripe for a left-wing government. Any half-decent leader on a similar platform could have energised thousands more, including those necessary to win an election.

Interesting how ripe the country was post-Milliband. But not during.

Something and/or someone revitalised the damaged party.

 

[SpookyFrank]

It amuses me that this anti-Corbyn stuff is so ground into some people that they can't let it go even several months after Corbyn ceased to be Labour leader.

 

[Southlondon]

Any fool can cheer their own troops.

Can you imagine him debating a Tory like this, instead of his typical angry dad mode:

Considering he was facing a relentless attack from not just Tories and their billionaire newspaper owning supports etc, but the detractors from the right wing of the Labour Party who refused to give up control, I think he did pretty well. My criticism of corbyn was that he was not ruthless enough at cleansing the party of the incumbent right wingers like they are in the process of doing now.
£250k has been raised in less than 24 hours for his defence team from many thousands of small Donors on a go fund me page. anyone who is as disgusted as I am about the way he is being persecuted by the rightwingers using spurious allegations of antisemitism to silence criticism of Zionism, could show solidarity by donating or publicising. The man is still under Attack and I believe we should show solidarity with him

 

[platinumsage]

HE should have been more of a lad like everyone's mate Johnson: regular racist quips, arrange a beating down the phone, knock up your employees, what a bundle of fun.

Michael Foot managed to own Tories in debates, and win arguments with right-wing journslits without being any of those things.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Just think, we could be luxuriating in the sunlit uplands of a Liz Kendall-led nation by now if only Corbyn had fucked off.

 

[platinumsage]

It amuses me that this anti-Corbyn stuff is so ground into some people that they can't let it go even several months after Corbyn ceased to be Labour leader.

This thread was top of the pile, perhaps it should have been closed, or marked "positive comments only".

 

[SpookyFrank]

Michael Foot managed to own Tories in debates, and win arguments with right-wing journslits without being any of those things.

How did that pan out, electorally?

 

[belboid]

No, I mean any debate, from PMQs with May and Johnson, through to slightly right-wing questions from BBC journalists. Useless.

he was seen as having regularly beaten May, and barely faced Johnson as he (Johnson) hid away.

But you carry on repeating the line of the right-wing labourites who worked tirelessly to ensure his defeat.

 

[JimW]

Michael Foot managed to own Tories in debates, and win arguments with right-wing journslits without being any of those things.

And got similar beastings to Corbyn and failed by your lights against a hated Tory prime minister.

 

[platinumsage]

How did that pan out, electorally?

I wouldn't exactly compare a post-Falklands Thatcher to a Brexitised Theresa May. If Foot had stood in 2017 he'd have romped home.