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Jeremy Corbyn's time is up

“The report also includes confidential private WhatsApp and other messages – a clear and unacceptable breach of confidence. Further, these messages are presented selectively and without their true context in order to give a misleading picture,”

I don't doubt it but the evidence is still damning, and this excuse is exactly the excuse used by eg. Jackie Walker.
 
This is truly absurd, but I do understand that I appear to be derailing the thread somewhat.
No, please keep it up

I realised after the last general election that a major part of my disappointment was that this thread was unlikely to reach a thousand pages.

But now I can see the light at the end of the tunnel - only 2,400 more pointless back and forths with PM to go ;)
 
No, please keep it up

I realised after the last general election that a major part of my disappointment was that this thread was unlikely to reach a thousand pages.

But now I can see the light at the end of the tunnel - only 2,400 more pointless back and forths with PM to go ;)
Well tough titties mate because myself and Pickmans have put any differences or misunderstandings aside and have started over.
 
It shows the deficit of 'politics' as it is now being played out on social media networks where critical analysis has sadly been replaced by a hundred screengrabbed tweets and facebook posts, where any attempt of discourse, regardless of what it is (we've seen it with trans stuff, now BLM) just gets reduced to this, and where nuanced views are so often increasingly misrepresented, the pile-on's start and then people block each other. And for any doubt, I'm not talking about actual views here (which I may fundamentally disagree with/oppose/criticise), but the method.

Why I stand outside of the whole fucking shit show.
 
It shows the deficit of 'politics' as it is now being played out on social media networks where critical analysis has sadly been replaced by a hundred screengrabbed tweets and facebook posts, where any attempt of discourse, regardless of what it is (we've seen it with trans stuff, now BLM) just gets reduced to this, and where nuanced views are so often increasingly misrepresented, the pile-on's start and then people block each other. And for any doubt, I'm not talking about actual views here (which I may fundamentally disagree with/oppose/criticise), but the method.

Why I stand outside of the whole fucking shit show.
Good on ya :thumbs:
 
I'm not saying you're dishonest MadeInBedlam, but the person who compiled it certainly was. It shows how some people will distort what Corbyn says to paint him as antisemitic.

It's a bit like quoting a last year's post on an urban thread about Wiley saying "I like Wiley" after that pile of shite to suggest the poster is antisemitic, too. Particularly making it look as if Corbyn was saying 'Thank you Wiley' in reply to the tweet saying 'Corbyn was right'. That's just fucking nasty. Where did it come from?
 
Nah, I think it's the exception on urban - people get pulled up on it and will often apologize. Not like the sewer that it twitter and facebook and the like. Problem is (and I've done it too many times myself) it's too easy to quickly c&p something you think is saying one thing but actually is saying something else.
 
I'm not saying you're dishonest MadeInBedlam, but the person who compiled it certainly was. It shows how some people will distort what Corbyn says to paint him as antisemitic.

It's a bit like quoting a last year's post on an urban thread about Wiley saying "I like Wiley" after that pile of shite to suggest the poster is antisemitic, too. Particularly making it look as if Corbyn was saying 'Thank you Wiley' in reply to the tweet saying 'Corbyn was right'. That's just fucking nasty. Where did it come from?
It's not just that one, other tweets in the rh column are not in date order
 
I'm not saying you're dishonest MadeInBedlam, but the person who compiled it certainly was. It shows how some people will distort what Corbyn says to paint him as antisemitic.

It's a bit like quoting a last year's post on an urban thread about Wiley saying "I like Wiley" after that pile of shite to suggest the poster is antisemitic, too. Particularly making it look as if Corbyn was saying 'Thank you Wiley' in reply to the tweet saying 'Corbyn was right'. That's just fucking nasty. Where did it come from?

I am saying he's dishonest, and also that he thinks we're all idiots. I wish I could say I was surprised or disappointed.
 
Nah, I think it's the exception on urban - people get pulled up on it and will often apologize. Not like the sewer that it twitter and facebook and the like. Problem is (and I've done it too many times myself) it's too easy to quickly c&p something you think is saying one thing but actually is saying something else.

Nah, urban went down this sewer a few years back, just constant regurgitating and reposting of whatever was on twitter or facebook, no proper discussion or context, just wall to wall of shit. People on here I thought highly off just blindly regurgitating shit about trans people for example (whilst playing the 'just trying to find my way through it all' zero game whilst actively engaging in it), or about any of the many 'cultural wars' that now seem to be taking place. People in so deep they've lost the perspective, and the divisiveness that's happened as a result.

We need to engage in finding and making meaningful, actual world, connections with people again outside of this shit which is turning everyone into cunts.
 
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