Jeremy Corbyn's time is up

[Smokeandsteam]

Maxine Peake, late of the Ill-advised article involving conspiraloon shit - a kind of 'Jeremy is great, isn't it a pity that Israel owns the world and made him lose' type exposé of idiocy. Long-Bailey retweeted it saying how good she was and handed Der Sturmer the excuse he was looking for to sack her.

In a gift-wrapped box. With pretty bows. And rose petals. With a card saying 'please sack me, I'm a weapons grade fuckwit'...

Phillip Collins is urging Waitrose to remove the whip from Corbyn and then expel him. His clause 4 moment etc.

I wonder how much of this is Blairite wank fantasy and how much of this is being seriously weighed up. I’m not sure how the optics of a civil war plays out in their minds. But I can imagine some musing about the positive columns it would generate. And of course, it distracts from the failure of the new leader to offer a compelling or coherent vision for the post Covid economy.

 

[belboid]

Maxine Peake, late of the Ill-advised article involving conspiraloon shit - a kind of 'Jeremy is great, isn't it a pity that Israel owns the world and made him lose' type exposé of idiocy. Long-Bailey retweeted it saying how good she was and handed Der Sturmer the excuse he was looking for to sack her.

In a gift-wrapped box. With pretty bows. And rose petals. With a card saying 'please sack me, I'm a weapons grade fuckwit'...

Christ, what a pile of shite.

 

[andysays]

Maxine Peake, late of the Ill-advised article involving conspiraloon shit - a kind of 'Jeremy is great, isn't it a pity that Israel owns the world and made him lose' type exposé of idiocy. Long-Bailey retweeted it saying how good she was and handed Der Sturmer the excuse he was looking for to sack her.

In a gift-wrapped box. With pretty bows. And rose petals. With a card saying 'please sack me, I'm a weapons grade fuckwit'...

Oh, her...

...I remember now.

 

[andysays]

Phillip Collins is urging Waitrose to remove the whip from Corbyn and then expel him. His clause 4 moment etc.

I wonder how much of this is Blairite wank fantasy and how much of this is being seriously weighed up. I’m not sure how the optics of a civil war plays out in their minds. But I can imagine some musing about the positive columns it would generate. And of course, it distracts from the failure of the new leader to offer a compelling or coherent vision for the post Covid economy.

Insert "in too deep" joke here

 

[Pickman's model]

Phillip Collins is urging Waitrose to remove the whip from Corbyn and then expel him. His clause 4 moment etc.

I wonder how much of this is Blairite wank fantasy and how much of this is being seriously weighed up. I’m not sure how the optics of a civil war plays out in their minds. But I can imagine some musing about the positive columns it would generate. And of course, it distracts from the failure of the new leader to offer a compelling or coherent vision for the post Covid economy.

optics should be seen only in pubs.

 

[TopCat]

Fair play for sticking up for your chum, but in objective reality Pickman's Model is one of the posters on the site who the highest number of people have put on Ignore, which should tell you something.

The poster currently wasting their time on replying to him is new, he may not know this.

I'm defending him against drivel accusations. Like yours.

 

[kebabking]

Phillip Collins is urging Waitrose to remove the whip from Corbyn and then expel him. His clause 4 moment etc.

I wonder how much of this is Blairite wank fantasy and how much of this is being seriously weighed up. I’m not sure how the optics of a civil war plays out in their minds. But I can imagine some musing about the positive columns it would generate. And of course, it distracts from the failure of the new leader to offer a compelling or coherent vision for the post Covid economy.

I know that lots of journalists are talking about it and saying that senior Labour people are actively discussing it - the yes/no point seems to be around the publication of the EHRC report, with a couple claiming that some of the recommendations in the report will be stake-through-the-heart, garlic-in-the-mouth fatal for Corbyn.

Whether that's true - any of it - I've no idea.

There is a great deal of personal hostility to Corbyn and his coterie, real, deep, visceral loathing so I wouldn't be surprised if some would like him gone - if the EHRC report makes grim reading then the racism stick would be just too delicious to ignore as a way of getting rid. The fact that it would send his supporters packing, or to the outer reaches of foaming loonville only adds to the taste.

I'm not convinced that Corbyn is an anti-Semite - though my view is nuanced - but I can see how deliciously ironic it would be for him to chucked out for racist behaviour, so I can see the appeal...

 

[brogdale]

Phillip Collins is urging Waitrose to remove the whip from Corbyn and then expel him. His clause 4 moment etc.

I wonder how much of this is Blairite wank fantasy and how much of this is being seriously weighed up. I’m not sure how the optics of a civil war plays out in their minds. But I can imagine some musing about the positive columns it would generate. And of course, it distracts from the failure of the new leader to offer a compelling or coherent vision for the post Covid economy.

If anything, it suggests that the membership shake-out of leftists has not perhaps been as thorough as some on the right would have hoped for.

 

[Jeff Robinson]

If anything, it suggests that the membership shake-out of leftists has not perhaps been as thorough as some on the right would have hoped for.

they won’t stop until the party has been entirely cleansed of hope. Enlightened technocracy is the only dish they want on the menu.

 

[redsquirrel]

You stopped sending them money Jeff?

 

[Jeff Robinson]

You stopped sending them money Jeff?

yep. Cancelled the standing order the day Starmer was elected.

 

[kebabking]

If anything, it suggests that the membership shake-out of leftists has not perhaps been as thorough as some on the right would have hoped for.

I think that understates how necessary many believe that a very public repudiation of The Corbyn Years is - certainly a discrete undermining of the left membership is necessary to ensure the centre and right win any fight, but the public, political act needs to be as public, and as brutal as possible.

Think of a public execution, with body quarters sent off to various cross roads throughout the land. Nothing subtle.

 

[Pickman's model]

I think that understates how necessary many believe that a very public repudiation of The Corbyn Years is - certainly a discrete undermining of the left membership is necessary to ensure the centre and right win any fight, but the public, political act needs to be as public, and as brutal as possible.

Think of a public execution, with body quarters sent off to various cross roads throughout the land. Nothing subtle.

do you mean discreet rather than discrete? the meanings are rather different.

 

[Pickman's model]

I'm defending him against drivel accusations. Like yours.

i am surprised and gratified that co-op took time off his transphobic work elsewhere to post a stream of thin piss here. he doesn't do it for just any auld poster, you know

 

[MrSki]

Still the crowdfunder is going well. Some donors might be taking the piss though.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Phillip Collins is urging Waitrose to remove the whip from Corbyn and then expel him. His clause 4 moment etc.

I wonder how much of this is Blairite wank fantasy and how much of this is being seriously weighed up. I’m not sure how the optics of a civil war plays out in their minds. But I can imagine some musing about the positive columns it would generate. And of course, it distracts from the failure of the new leader to offer a compelling or coherent vision for the post Covid economy.

I think we need to hear both sides of the story.

 

[Shechemite]

although we might not hear it on RT Labour calls for review of Russian news agency RT

 

[Sprocket.]

It’s heartwarming to see that through all the turmoil of 2020, the Labour Party is more intent on attacking itself than the most useless government in Europe.

 

[Pickman's model]

It’s heartwarming to see that through all the turmoil of 2020, the Labour Party is more intent on attacking itself than the most useless government in Europe.

why should they stop now what they've been doing for most of the past 35-40 years?

 

[Pickman's model]

It’s heartwarming to see that through all the turmoil of 2020, the Labour Party is more intent on attacking itself than the most useless government in European history.

oh and c4u

 

[Sprocket.]

why should they stop now what they've been doing for most of the past 35-40 years?

It’s no longer policy, it’s become habitual.

 

[co-op]

I'm defending him against drivel accusations. Like yours.

Bully for you.

 

[CNT36]

Maxine Peake, late of the Ill-advised article involving conspiraloon shit - a kind of 'Jeremy is great, isn't it a pity that Israel owns the world and made him lose' type exposé of idiocy.

The article was nothing like that. She mentioned Israel once with a bullshit example of systemic racism being a global problem that was in no way related to Corbyn.

 

[Shechemite]

leaking that ‘report’ perhaps not wise Labour was warned antisemitism report was deliberately misleading, leak reveals

 

[Smokeandsteam]

It’s heartwarming to see that through all the turmoil of 2020, the Labour Party is more intent on attacking itself than the most useless government in Europe.

Isn’t that because, to all intents and purposes, it largely accepts the analysis and response of the most useless government in Europe

 

[Pickman's model]

leaking that ‘report’ perhaps not wise Labour was warned antisemitism report was deliberately misleading, leak reveals

and this was a report commissioned under the former dpp, the current leader of the party, someone who has - i hear - a legal background

 

[campanula]

Still the crowdfunder is going well. Some donors might be taking the piss though.

I sent a tenner. I was chucked out of the LP (twice) and I despair of parliamentary politics.
I don't read dense works of political theory and can be easily stomped on for having some less than acceptable views. I don't really enjoy the viciously combative positioning on the P&P subforum...or the toxic spite which seems to dominate all political discourse. I think JC is a career politician who has maintained a flawed but sincere, egalitarian and fundamentally honest commitment to social justice...who at least has an awareness of what representational politics should mean, and yep, I truly liked the idea of a more collegiate, democratic form of politics... whereas Starmer is just another neo-liberal establishment arse-licker who has nothing whatsoever to say to my class ( I am just another unit of production to be exploited by rentiers, parasites, managerial scum and authoritarian defenders of property).
In my whole life, I have never felt represented by a single politician. The initial groundswell of support, back in 2016, demonstrated an appetite for change... and JC's mildly left (and deeply personal) position resonated for an awful lot of politically homeless people like myself. And clearly, this cannot ever be allowed. 'The many' must be kept in our place and fed 'grown up politics' as delivered by the vast majority of Westminster, privately educated fucking suits.
Shit on them. And Burn it down.

 

[bellaozzydog]

Maxine Peake, late of the Ill-advised article involving conspiraloon shit - a kind of 'Jeremy is great, isn't it a pity that Israel owns the world and made him lose' type exposé of idiocy. Long-Bailey retweeted it saying how good she was and handed Der Sturmer the excuse he was looking for to sack her.

In a gift-wrapped box. With pretty bows. And rose petals. With a card saying 'please sack me, I'm a weapons grade fuckwit'...

You appear to have distilled your rapier like political analysis over a hot wet, a pasty and a three day old copy of the sun in the NAAFI

 

[CNT36]

and this was a report commissioned under the former dpp, the current leader of the party, someone who has - i hear - a legal background

A man incapable of being political.

 

[sleaterkinney]

leaking that ‘report’ perhaps not wise Labour was warned antisemitism report was deliberately misleading, leak reveals

Say it ain't so!

“I also object further on the grounds that large sections of the report have been compiled using email searches which were not authorised for the authors to undertake including improper searches of my email account.

“The report also includes confidential private WhatsApp and other messages – a clear and unacceptable breach of confidence. Further, these messages are presented selectively and without their true context in order to give a misleading picture,”