Jeremy Corbyn's time is up

[19force8]

No no no Angela, this is how you do it:

"I respect and admire all the candidates running for the leadership. In particular, I wanted to help build a team behind Boris Johnson so that a politician who argued for leaving the European Union could lead us to a better future.

"But I have come, reluctantly, to the conclusion that Boris cannot provide the leadership or build the team for the task ahead."

Quick and virtually painless. E2a This is what makes our ruling class the envy of the world.

 

[FabricLiveBaby!]

Dan Hodges trying to create a twitter storm about how Corbyn compared Israel to Isis at the anti-semitism enquiry.

Desperate stuff.

 

[Wilf]

No no no Angela, this is how you do it:


Quick and virtually painless.

Yes, if gove can spare a few hours he should run a master class on How to Kill Your Rivals, for the Labour rebels. Maybe the grauniad could run it, it would cater to essentially the same audience
Guardian Masterclasses | The Guardian

 

[Wilf]

'Those who aren't hanging are hanging someone else'.

 

[treelover]

What do you mean by young?
What does the fact she is Asian have to do with anything?
Why is it interesting this was organised by an all female team?

Why are you shocked that JC supporters still support JC?

So many demands, so little time,


(1)She was young
(2) I remembered her from the very determined JC march to parliament as leader.
(3) pretty impressive
(4) some are leaving

Wind your neck in and stop looking for inferences that are simply not there.

 

[DaveCinzano]

Wind your neck in and stop looking for inferences that are simply not there.

You're confusing inferences with implications.

 

[treelover]

It won't continue as a functioning institution if he quits. One of two things will happen. Either Corbyn's support base stays, in which case the promised Night of the Deselections looms regardless, or this whole charade pisses people off enough that they abandon ship in droves, leaving the PLP with Conservative levels of door-knocking ability and no money, followed shortly thereafter by total electoral wipeout. This isn't some minor skirmish, it's full-on civil war, winner-takes-all.

The meeting last night sent out a press release(after some robust debate) that called for mandatory re-selection.

 

[killer b]

which meeting?

 

[Wilf]

The meeting last night sent out a press release(after some robust debate) that called for mandatory re-selection.

This is playing out the labour battles of the 1980s, twice as farce and all that. Well, fine, bring it on, crush the fuckers. But it won't be a quick kill, a protracted series of legal challenges and all that. But again, whilst it might be necessary to have this internal battle, the real issue is the failure of Labour, old, new or corbynite, to engage with the working class.

 

[Treacle Toes]

So many demands, so little time,


(1)She was young
(2) I remembered her from the very determined JC march to parliament as leader.
(3) pretty impressive
(4) some are leaving

Wind your neck in and stop looking for inferences that are simply not there.

1. You describe what is clearly a young woman, as a girl.
2. You just happened to remember and think it relevant that she is Asian.
3. You are 'pretty impressed' that a group of young women can organise a small rally on the steps of SOAS.


The inferences are there and blindingly obvious for anyone who isn't a condescending twit.

So, wind your own neck in and NEVER, EVER, tell me what to do again. I am not the type of 'girl' that will do what she's told by the likes of you.

 

[Rob Ray]

The Eagle is stranded (again), she's "pausing" her candidacy. What a wimp.

 

[Wilf]

So many demands, so little time,


(1)She was young
(2) I remembered her from the very determined JC march to parliament as leader.
(3) pretty impressive
(4) some are leaving

Wind your neck in and stop looking for inferences that are simply not there.

Would you at least admit that your post expressing delight about young/Asian/women leading a campaign was at least patronising?

 

[butchersapron]

The Eagle is stranded (again), she's "pausing" her candidacy. What a wimp.

Nonsense.

Mighty eagle! thou that soarest
O'er the misty mountain forest,
And amid the light of morning
Like a cloud of glory hiest,
And when night descends defiest
The embattled tempests’ warning!

 

[killer b]

The Eagle is stranded (again), she's "pausing" her candidacy. What a wimp.

Is that confirmed, or just the peston tweet from earlier?

 

[Wilf]

The Eagle is stranded (again), she's "pausing" her candidacy. What a wimp.

She must have briefly met Boris Johnson in the holding area, before he finally fell through the rubbish chute.

 

[Wilf]

Gove, Gove burning bright in the forests of the shite.

 

[rutabowa]

so what happens if noone challenges?

 

[butchersapron]

Gove, Gove burning bright in the forests of the shite.

Excellent

 

[Libertad]

'Those who aren't hanging are hanging someone else'.

They'll hang you for incontinence and fiddling your tax.

 

[butchersapron]

Not directly relevant, but i found this interesting - when/why/how did labour lose/fail to produce any politicians of similar stature? Esp considering their long 1997 onwards period in power:

It is a far cry from the 1976 contest, when 6 giants sought the leadership. Michael Foot, Anthony Crosland, Tony Benn, Denis Healey, Roy Jenkins and James Callaghan.

And underneath:

Angela Eagle: “Political elite need to lay off Jeremy Corbyn”

Writing to members, Eagle said, “I would happily serve under anyone the members choose to be our leader. Why? Because I respect the wisdom of our members, supporters and affiliates and our Party’s process of electing a new leadership team. Every candidate has the right to be heard and put forward a vision for Labour’s future and, whether you agree with Jeremy Corbyn or not, he is in the race and is entitled to participate. So the talk of coups, remarks about not serving in Shadow Cabinets and former Prime Minister’s telling people to get ‘heart transplants’ need to stop now.”

http://www.leftfutures.org/2015/07/angela-eagle-political-elite-need-to-lay-off-jeremy-corbyn/

 

[Rob Ray]

Is that confirmed, or just the peston tweet from earlier?

Passed on in the office, so could be Peston, though who can tell that this point? She's changing her mind hourly atm. She was back to pleading with Jeremy to step down an hour ago. This is all going to go down so well with voters if she actually summons the courage to do it.

 

[steeplejack]

I wonder if Angela's pause has anything at all to do with the near 7,000 strong petition from her Wallasey constituents denouncing her imminent candidature.*

If it was a serious bid she would have had much more single mindedness about it. Let's see if anyone else emerges from the flaming wreckage of this cack-handed put-up job.

*EDIT: update; 8,330 people now calling for her to go.

 

[Wilf]

Not directly relevant, but i found this interesting - when/why/how did labour lose/fail to produce any politicians of similar stature? Esp considering their long 1997 onwards period in power:
http://www.leftfutures.org/2015/07/angela-eagle-political-elite-need-to-lay-off-jeremy-corbyn/

And in the tory party, to some extent. Thatcher's leadership election in 1975 had several grandees in the contest, even if they weren't as personally impressive as the labour lot you mention. It's a bit of a stretch, but she was almost the Stephen Crabb of that election.

 

[Wilf]

I wonder if Angela's pause has anything at all to do with the near 7,000 strong petition from her Wallasey constituents denouncing her imminent candidature.

If it was a serious bid she would have had much more single mindedness about it. Let's see if anyone else emerges from the flaming wreckage of this cack-handed put-up job.

The last few hours have seen labour and tory hopefuls playing out their angst and self interest in real time on social media to the point where they twitter themselves out of a challenge. Good, fuck every last one of them. I think though, there's a serious point in there somewhere and it overlaps with Butcher's point above about the lack of substance in some of these characters.

 

[DotCommunist]

Still plenty of old old evil on the tory benches but the one thing that I remember from the feel of the blair years was the fussy, middle management feel.

 

[Red Cat]

So many demands, so little time,


(1)She was young
(2) I remembered her from the very determined JC march to parliament as leader.
(3) pretty impressive
(4) some are leaving

Wind your neck in and stop looking for inferences that are simply not there.

Oh, so your point wasn't 'Look at these young girls being manipulated by old men, just like in the SWP' then?

 

[J Ed]

From graunid

I’m hearing strong rumours that some of the “core loyal” Corbyn supporters are planning to tell him that they think it’s time to go.

Is this really what passes for journalism now?

 

[J Ed]

I just heard that a really strong rumour that everyone at the guardian drinks the water out of bird baths.

 

[ska invita]

So, wind your own neck in and NEVER, EVER, tell me what to do again. I am not the type of 'girl' that will do what she's told by the likes of you.

Are you feeling better Rutita1?

 

[Wilf]

From some fucking guardian page or other:

Labour MP Ruth Smeeth has urged Jeremy Corbyn to resign immediately, accusing him of a “catastrophic failure of leadership”, after he failed to defend her when she was abused at the launch of a report into antisemitism in the party. In a statement she said:

I was verbally attacked by a Momentum activist and Jeremy Corbyn supporter who used traditional antisemitic slurs to attack me for being part of a ‘media conspiracy’. It is beyond belief that someone could come to the launch of a report on antisemitism in the Labour Party and espouse such vile conspiracy theories about Jewish people, which were ironically highlighted as such in Ms [Shami] Chakrabarti’s report, while the leader of my own party stood by and did absolutely nothing.

People like this have no place in our party or our movement and must be opposed. Until today I had made no public comment about Jeremy’s ability to lead our party, but the fact that he failed to intervene is final proof for me that he is unfit to lead, and that a Labour Party under his stewardship cannot be a safe space for British Jews.

Smeeth said that she has written to the general secretary of the Labour Party and the chair of the parliamentary Labour party to complain about the events. She continued:

No-one from the Leader’s office has contacted me since the event, which is itself a catastrophic failure of leadership. I call on Jeremy Corbyn to resign immediately and make way for someone with the backbone to confront racism and antisemitism in our party and in the country..

Smeeth resigned as parliamentary private secretary the shadow Northern Ireland and Scotland teams on Monday.

I remember some story that when they ran out of bombs, world war 2 (?) planes used to drop random scrap metal over enemy territory. We seem to have reached that stage in the Labour Party.