Jeremy Corbyn's time is up

[Pickman's model]

Well as an "insider" I would love to hear your list of possible leadership candidates.

i bet you would.

 

[Supine]

Thomas The Tank Engine could do a better job

 

[Pickman's model]

Thomas The Tank Engine could do a better job

how right you are

 

[mikey mikey]

Thomas The Tank Engine could do a better job

In that case, could Own Smith or Dan Jarvis or Stella Creasy or Liz Kendall or Tristram Hunt?

Simple yes/no answer.

 

[Pickman's model]

In that case, could Own Smith or Dan Jarvis or Stella Creasy or Liz Kendall or Tristram Hunt?

Simple yes/no answer.

no. i wouldn't trust any of them to lead a conga line, much less a political party.

 

[mikey mikey]

What about Ian Austin, Ben Bradshaw, Hilary Benn or Stephen Kinnock?

 

[Pickman's model]

What about Ian Austin, Ben Bradshaw, Hilary Benn or Stephen Kinnock?

what about them?

 

[agricola]

Thomas The Tank Engine could do a better job

the PLP is more Sodoff than Sodor, though

 

[mikey mikey]

Okay Rowena. Look at the last question about Labour MPs and the question of whether they could do a better job than Corbyn and/or Thoams the Tank Engine.

Now try to keep two ideas in your head at once.

Okay, now think what the second question may be referring to.

You can do it!

 

[Pickman's model]

Okay Rowena. Look at the last question about Labour MPs and the question of whether they could do a better job than Corbyn and/or Thoams the Tank Engine.

Now try to keep two ideas in your head at once.

Okay, now think what the second question may be referring to.

You can do it!

oswald - i can do it but why the fuck should i?

 

[mikey mikey]

Why not? Is it because you really do think Ian Austin, Ben Bradshaw, Hilary Benn or Stephen Kinnock could make a better leader, but like all shy (Red) Tories, you don't like to be candid with your real political beliefs?

 

[Pickman's model]

Why not? Is it because you really do think Ian Austin, Ben Bradshaw, Hilary Benn or Stephen Kinnock could make a better leader, but like all shy (Red) Tories, you don't like to be candid with your real political beliefs?

no.

 

[mikey mikey]

Come on, Rowena. Let the Blairite free!

 

[Pickman's model]

Come on, Rowena. Let the Blairite free!

come on cancerman, catch yourself on.

 

[mikey mikey]

Which one is it? Hmm, is it Hilary Bomber Benn?

No. It must be the fabulous Ben Bradshaw!

Am I right, Rowena?

 

[Pickman's model]

Which one is it? Hmm, is it Hilary Bomber Benn?

No. It must be the fabulous Ben Bradshaw!

Am I right, Rowena?

no

 

[kebabking]

Come on, Rowena. Let the Blairite free!

And if you want to know one of the reasons the Party is in the state it's in, take a look at yourself - no idea that doesn't fit the Corbynite narrative, no criticism, no personality and no policy that doesn't spring from St Jeremy's holy arse can be motivated by anything other than Blairism - because that's all there is in the warped, myopic world of the Corbynites: Corbyn and Blair...

You are as bad as that utter bellend who believes that the only possible reason previously solid Labour voters in the old traditional Labour heartlands turned to UKIP was that they had discovered the exilor of undisguised racism...

 

[mikey mikey]

And if you want to know one of the reasons the Party is in the state it's in, take a look at yourself - no idea that doesn't fit the Corbynite narrative, no criticism, no personality and no policy that doesn't spring from St Jeremy's holy arse can be motivated by anything other than Blairism - because that's all there is in the warped, myopic world of the Corbynites: Corbyn and Blair...

Well none that have been named as potential leaders yet, no. At least to my knowledge.

Owen Smith was a "moderate" as were other MPs put forward as potential challengers in the future.

And still you refuse to name one MP that could replace Jeremy that lies somewhere between the Left of the Party and the Right.

That makes people like YOU one of one of the reasons the Party is in the state it's in.

So name those names insider man.

 

[Pickman's model]

That makes people like YOU one of one of the reasons the Party is in the state it's in.

 

[Pickman's model]

Well none that have been named as potential leaders yet, no. At least to my knowledge.

that's because the labour party is bereft of talent.

 

[mikey mikey]

If one truly wanted a better leader than Corbyn that the members would support, one would have a handful of potential replacements that didn't look like a list of who's who in Progress. Without it any talk about "Corbyn must go" just smacks of more Right wing coup crap.

It does not require a great leap of logic to assume that should Corbyn resign, the next candidates nominated will be only what the movers and shakers in the PLP and their patrons wish to see.

So until then, I believe a lot of Corbyn supporters think better him than Red Tory cunts.

 

[Pickman's model]

It does not require a great leap of logic to assume that should Corbyn resign, the next candidates nominated will be only what the movers and shakers in the PLP and their patrons wish to see.

it does though require an utter ignorance of the last quarter century of british politics, as anyone who recalls john major's 1995 resignation as tory leader can affirm.

politics is rarely logical mr mikey spock

 

[butchersapron]

And if you want to know one of the reasons the Party is in the state it's in, take a look at yourself - no idea that doesn't fit the Corbynite narrative, no criticism, no personality and no policy that doesn't spring from St Jeremy's holy arse can be motivated by anything other than Blairism - because that's all there is in the warped, myopic world of the Corbynites: Corbyn and Blair...

You are as bad as that utter bellend who believes that the only possible reason previously solid Labour voters in the old traditional Labour heartlands turned to UKIP was that they had discovered the exilor of undisguised racism...

Imagine these cultists out on the doorstep...frightening.

 

[mikey mikey]

Well, I am strongly reminded of the The Scorpion and the Frog - Wikipedia.

Scorpion: Let's get a better leader than Corbyn!
Frog: Who do you have in mind?
Scorpion: Well we will sort that out after we get rid of him.
Frog: Okay.
Scorpion: Good lad.
Frog: Oh no! There are only Right wing candidates to vote for!
Scorpion: Of course. It is the nature of the PLP to nominate candidates that they want to have as leader.
Frog: But what about "spectrum" and "range of political candidates".
Scorpion: We tried that, but you went and voted for the token lefty that was meant to fail.

 

[Pickman's model]

Well, I am strongly reminded of the The Scorpion and the Frog - Wikipedia.

Scorpion: Let's get a better leader than Corbyn!
Frog: Who do you have in mind?
Scorpion: Well we will sort that out after we get rid of him.
Frog: Okay.
Scorpion: Good lad.
Frog: Oh no! There are only Right wing candidates to vote for!
Scorpion: Of course. It is the nature of the PLP to nominate candidates that they want to have as leader.
Frog: But what about "spectrum" and "range of political candidates".
Scorpion: We tried that, but you went and voted for the token lefty that was meant to fail.

that's nice, dear

 

[kebabking]

If one truly wanted a better leader than Corbyn that the members would support, one would have a handful of potential replacements that didn't look like a list of who's who in Progress. Without it any talk about "Corbyn must go" just smacks of more Right wing coup crap....

All you have to do is look at the shadow cabinet, there are at least a good handful of people from the left of the PLP who seem to have a reasonable grasp of their jobs and who also have the ability to interact with the media, the electorate and the party membership and do so positively.

If you don't know who those people are then you're obviously not someone who pays much attention, and probably ought not to get a vote.

Moreover, if you don't understand why names don't get bandied about you've obviously not spent much time in the company of the hysterical loons who make up Corbyns most vocal support - though I suspect you understand exactly why names don't get bandied about, and it frustrates the shit out of you...

 

[mikey mikey]

All you have to do is look at the shadow cabinet, there are at least a good handful of people from the left of the PLP who seem to have a reasonable grasp of their jobs and who also have the ability to interact with the media, the electorate and the party membership and do so positively.

Who are you referring to?

Spit.it.out.

 

[Pickman's model]

All you have to do is look at the shadow cabinet, there are at least a good handful of people from the left of the PLP who seem to have a reasonable grasp of their jobs and who also have the ability to interact with the media, the electorate and the party membership and do so positively.

If you don't know who those people are then you're obviously not someone who pays much attention, and probably ought not to get a vote.

Moreover, if you don't understand why names don't get bandied about you've obviously not spent much time in the company of the hysterical loons who make up Corbyns most vocal support - though I suspect you understand exactly why names don't get bandied about, and it frustrates the shit out of you...

and then sadly all his shit ends up here

 

[mikey mikey]

Thanks Rowena. You can go now.

 

[Pickman's model]

Thanks Rowena. You can go now.

good of you to say so, oswald. but i think i'll stick about a bit longer.