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Christ; call me naive but there seemed to be so much renewed hope and trust in Labour when the members overwhelmingly voted him in. Poor sod was marked from the start.
Jeremy Corbyn's time is up
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Christ; call me naive but there seemed to be so much renewed hope and trust in Labour when the members overwhelmingly voted him in. Poor sod was marked from the start.
wheelie_bin
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They have put in an admirable level of effort, we really do need to find out who their lead planner is and pop them into the EU negotiation process.
butchersapron
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What's the background of the leading mirror types?
Pretty shabby. Entirely predictable. He's fucked.
butchersapron
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No he ain't. And what do you mean by predictable? That he could have planned against this? This specific piece in the paper or the wider project?
Vintage Paw
dead stare and computer glare
Stella Creasy has been pretty quiet throughout all of this, hasn't she?
Dusting off the old nomination form?
Dusting off the old nomination form?
wheelie_bin
Well-Known Member
Anyone else think this is just flat out lies?
Next up, Corbyn was seen clubbing cute baby seals?
Predictable that he would be bullied out. They've been after him since day one.
It doesn't help that he's actually shit at putting across any message and offering decent policies either.
There's no deselection moves in there - there's a change.org petition asking her to resign. Which will be about as useful as all the other change.org petitions.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
The attack was predictable - the lack of organised defence by the 100s of thousands of enthused new members not so. Or maybe so.
Doctor Carrot
Marxist Henchman
Just seen his speech. I actually admire the man now. Still standing firm in the face of the entire establishment cunting him off for 9 months and now he's entire shadow cabinet have stabbed him in the back. He's got a new one now and his days of compromising with these cunts seems to be over. I think if a new leadership challenge is mounted he'll walk it. I don't even give a fuck if the party splits because judging by that rally and the show of support and petitions and the like he's got some sort of movement behind him. Seroiously, who the fuck in this country's gonna listen to pricks like Benn now?
He needs to be out there calling for a general election and putting forward a plan to defeat austerity: stop persecuting the sick, the unemployed, axe the bedroom tax, reverse the cuts, etc. He's done none of this as far as I can see. Meanwhile Momentum seems to be growing increasingly insular and his position becoming untenable. If there is a leadership challenge and he wins, the blairites won't give up. The party will have to split and he willgo down as the leader that split he party (which may or may not be a bad thing).
Doctor Carrot
Marxist Henchman
Ha just saw the mirror headline. Fuck me what a bunch of cunts eh? Uneblievable, I don't really recall a level of cuntitude quite like this.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
However much he loathes the plotters, corbyn will have to resign within the next 72 hours. Hard to tell if the bunch of shites are really going to install a plp leader or even think about a new party, but they are way ahead of him ion playing the game. His problem is, in his chosen politics - parliamentary politics - his isn't even in the game. If he carries on and goes all the way to a membership vote, the whole thing is fucked - the idea of being able to fight an election in 6 months... When he won the leadership he clearly needed to act - if nothing else he needed to change the party structures to bypass the MPs, but also to start developing a combative politics that looked outside of and built alliances outside Westminster. He's done neither, partly because he was assailed by the media and his perfidious shadow cabinet. Maybe it was never do-able, but here we are.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
indeed.
wheelie_bin
Well-Known Member
I hope you're right, but when they get overexcited by the rebellion against Corbyn and want their own scalp, it's hard to tell.
It's all a fucking sordid mess. If he holds on he might win a leadership election. I hope he does, tbh. But i think there's no surviving this. The PLP have fucking done for their party for all time.
Rob Ray
Weight is meaningless
He's not a dictator, he can't just clap his hands and change party structures. Nor could he "build politics outside Westminster" on his own in nine months. That bit was down to the likes of Momentum, and it's a project that'd take years at least to overturn the ingrained alienation and cynicism of communities New Labour treated like scum for decades, if it's possible at all.
Seriously I wonder at the political nous of people who seem to have thought putting "the right guy" in charge would change everything lickety split. This isn't magic ffs it's politics, if you want to build a sustainable mass movement it's the same neverending slog as in any other form of organising. There are no shortcuts.
J Ed
Follow Back Pro Expropriation
Owen Jones has basically come out against Corbyn My thoughts on the plight of Labour
J Ed
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Wow, they must really think they can't have him on the ballot.
JimW
支那暗杀团
Can only be that or they're more deluded than I imagined
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Ha, is that it? Watson tries it? Remember what happened to that chukka bloke?
Christ, it's like he c&pd the latest episode of 'I see you'
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Didn't he write a book about how the elite rule? This is how they manage the political side of it owen. Playing your role. This time, for free.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Well done on 8 whole months of Struggle against Lies, Stupidity and Cowardice though.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
You must leave the eu/oh no don't leave the eu - You must elect corbyn/oh no you've elected corbyn/ get rid of corbyn.
On all these things - listen to me.
On all these things - listen to me.
YouSir
Retired from Urban
Got people in my family who left Labour years back but who are 'natural' Labour supporters. Saying they'll rejoin to keep Corbyn, sickened by media, man of principle etc.
Purely anecdotal but for all the 'realistic' cynicism people can still see him for what he is. Do think he needs to let the attack dogs go though, already has to a degree. He can be the statesman, they can maul some fuckers.
Purely anecdotal but for all the 'realistic' cynicism people can still see him for what he is. Do think he needs to let the attack dogs go though, already has to a degree. He can be the statesman, they can maul some fuckers.
Mr Moose
What the hell are we supposed to tell the kids?
I don't know, but I imagine there could be some sort of contest.
Does no one think that the left side might be a lot stronger with a decent leader?
What on earth does he even believe in? How would he relate to the armed forces, or business, or potential voters who don't share his views.
Careerist maverick.
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