is there even any point of this second 'debate', I mean both these guys are total no hopers anyway - Smith wants a second ref, and Corbo just wans to save the world by being 'nice' - LOL, bet Isis are really shaking in their boots!
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is there even any point of this second 'debate', I mean both these guys are total no hopers anyway - Smith wants a second ref, and Corbo just wans to save the world by being 'nice' - LOL, bet Isis are really shaking in their boots!
Corbyn is putting forward issues that affect every day working people which New Labour or the Tories are not. Owen is pretending to but no one is buying it.
How about the fact that many,many people are against mass-immigration, the EU, the emasculation of our defence forces etc..how about those people- what is Corbyn doing for them? And how about non-working people, what is Jezza doing for them?
Not watching it - but who's helping to keep us safe from the Jihadis?? not Labour that's for sure - they want to let them all in with the refugees , by by Labour
what is the emasculation of our defence forces?
Fingers
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Can you explain how Labour have not kept us safe from terrorists and your issue with refugees please?
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the tories came up with the nice covenant of security with the jihadis so i wouldn't have much faith in them.
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Leftie ideologies in Europe have let many jihadis with the refugee invasion, don't you remember Paris and Belgium, or how about the gropers in Cologne? Labour would 'let them all in ' here given the chance, just listen to Yvette Cooper
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i hate to break it to you but angela merkel is not a leftie.
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oh and no one listens to yvette cooper. except you.
the attempt to abolish Trident is the most obvious example
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no, Mr.Bishie, angela merkel is not a leftie.
Mr.Bishie
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Come on Martina2016 - show us ya true colours!
existentialist
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Without wishing to suggest in any way that it is a defining moment, but take a look at the footage of Corbyn in today's PMQs, and tell me that's someone being "nice".is there even any point of this second 'debate', I mean both these guys are total no hopers anyway - Smith wants a second ref, and Corbo just wans to save the world by being 'nice' - LOL, bet Isis are really shaking in their boots!
It suits a certain agenda to paint Corbyn in that beautifully stereotypical mould of the British "nice but ineffectual" type, but, as with all generalisations (some more than others), it misses a lot of the story.
The anti-Corbyn tendency like to - perhaps unwittingly - emphasise the importance of the role of the leader of the Party in the political context, but in doing so ignore the significant support he's garnering outside that establishment. Worse (from their point of view), I think they actually run the risk of turning him into an "outsider candidate" which could result in them suddenly having to deal with a leader who's totally out of step with the party, but carries a massive popular mandate.
There comes a point where, whatever clever tricks you pull, someone commanding such wide public support actually begins to trancend all of your machinations. That might be fantasy today, as far as Corbyn is concerned, but it's not impossible. Owen Smith, on the other hand, doesn't really have that advantage. I expect that's Corbyn's fault, somehow.
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what, not the tory insistence on sending our gallant lads into combat in helmand in scantily clad landrovers?
Fingers
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is that the mass murdering weapons system we cannot use without the permission of the United States?
Mr.Bishie
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Fuck me! Really?
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apparently so
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corbyn stole smith's charisma
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and how is a nuke going to stop attacks in belgium , paris or as you say the 'gropers in cologne ?'
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I don't mind the nukes, they won't be turned on us, prefer if we shared them with the French though. Having a PM who doesn't want to bomb anything that moves is far more important.
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