Jeremy Corbyn's time is up

[littlebabyjesus]

Jeremy Corbyn ‘too busy’ for visit to Israel’s Holocaust museum

Not too clever there Jezza...

Put that in some context. How many invitations do you think he receives to go places? How many does he turn down? How many of those other invitations that he turns down get reported by the fucking Guardian.

It's the Guardian you should be attacking here for their campaign against JC. Remember the time it was reported in the G and on the BBC that he had refused his first invitation to the privy council cos of prior engagements? Remember that? A snub to the queen, no less. When he did exactly the same thing that Cameron had done when he became leader. Because it wasn't a priority and he had prior engagements that were more important. And somehow, mysteriously, it wasn't reported when Cameron refused.

You need to learn how to read stuff better, otherwise you will just remain a passive victim to the crudest of propaganda techniques.

 

[butchersapron]

If this is all they have left the two weeks leading into the election....

 

[oryx]

I 'like' the way the article has two direct quotes from anti-Corbyn people and none from his side.

 

[J Ed]

If this is all they have left the two weeks leading into the election....

Did you have the misfortune of watching any of the debate on Question Time? Half of what Owen Smith said was 'you support Hamas', 'you brought hard left anti-Semites into the party like the AWL' and so on. Desperate doesn't cover it.

 

[butchersapron]

Put that in some context. How many invitations do you think he receives to go places? How many does he turn down? How many of those other invitations that he turns down get reported by the fucking Guardian.

It's the Guardian you should be attacking here for their campaign against JC. Remember the time it was reported in the G and on the BBC that he had refused his first invitation to the privy council cos of prior engagements? Remember that? A snub to the queen, no less. When he did exactly the same thing that Cameron had done when he became leader. Because it wasn't a priority and he had prior engagements that were more important. And somehow, mysteriously, it wasn't reported when Cameron refused.

You need to learn how to read stuff better, otherwise you will just remain a passive victim to the crudest of propaganda techniques.

One thing he is not in this is passive. He's an active and aware part of the plan to smear corbyn as anti-semitic.

 

[timeforanother]

The G are shits. I have Jewish blood, I know I'd prefer JC in charge if the fash start mobilising again.

 

[butchersapron]

Did you have the misfortune of watching any of the debate on Question Time? Half of what Owen Smith said was 'you support Hamas', 'you brought hard left anti-Semites into the party like the AWL' and so on. Desperate doesn't cover it.

I didn't. They have run out of time and road.

 

[butchersapron]

The G are shits. I have Jewish blood, I know I'd prefer JC in charge if the fash start mobilising again.

Triple G - soon.

 

[timeforanother]

The AWL are softies, they were sweet as SO too.

 

[Diamond]

Most importantly, there was no Israel. After six months working as a policy adviser for Jeremy Corbyn, it was clear to me that the way Corbyn and those around him think about Jewish people is shaped by a frenetic anti-imperialism, focused on Israel and America. Without a hint of irony, one senior aide asked that I remove the greeting “Chag Kasher VeSameach” from Corbyn’s Passover message, for fear that Corbyn’s supporters might think the use of Hebrew “Zionist”.

In modern Britain, it is no longer true that intellectuals are ashamed of antisemitism. In the eyes of the leaders of the British far left, Israel’s occupation – for some, even Israel’s existence – offers a firm moral basis for antipathy towards Jews in Israel or, more ambitiously, towards Jews everywhere.

Why Jews in Labour place little trust in Jeremy Corbyn | Joshua Simons

All the above is marginal and irrelevant to the current Labour leadership, then...?

 

[Nylock]

Jeremy Corbyn ‘too busy’ for visit to Israel’s Holocaust museum

Not too clever there Jezza...

Fair play, you don't half show yourself up to be a tawdry little pillock sometimes....

 

[Fez909]

Why Jews in Labour place little trust in Jeremy Corbyn | Joshua Simons

All the above is marginal and irrelevant to the current Labour leadership, then...?

Did you read the entire article?

Antisemitism is not rife in the British Labour party, quite the opposite in fact. It is only thought to be so because Labour is currently led by a team whose political identity is driven first and foremost by a visceral contempt for America and for Israel. Equally, while it is true that Israel’s current policies exacerbate antisemitism, it is not at all true that antisemitism exists because of the Jewish state or that antisemitism would have been extinguished if only the Jewish state had never existed

 

[timeforanother]

I identify as a jew, even if it is from my dad's side. It turns out my daughters are 'proper' jews from a matriarchal line. So stop bringing up the antisemitism. Socialists should support the Palastinians, even if Hamas are more angry than PC.

 

[nino_savatte]

Why Jews in Labour place little trust in Jeremy Corbyn | Joshua Simons

All the above is marginal and irrelevant to the current Labour leadership, then...?

All Jews? Get to fuck.

 

[nino_savatte]

In other news, Michael Foster has been suspended.

Labour has suspended a prominent donor over an article he wrote in which Jeremy Corbyn's leadership bid team were likened to Nazi stormtroopers.

Michael Foster wrote that Mr Corbyn and his team had "no respect for others and worse, no respect for the rule of law".

Labour said the suspension was for allegedly breaching election rules which ban "abuse of any kind".

Mr Foster said he had been highlighting Mr Corbyn's "leadership cadre" and did not use the word Nazi himself.

The article for the Mail on Sunday was headlined: "'Why I despise Jeremy Corbyn and his Nazi stormtroopers', by Jewish Labour donor".

He didn't use the word 'Nazi' himself? He didn't have to. The suggestion was there.

The courts decided that the rules as they stand allowed it. This decision advantaged Corbyn and his Sturm Abteilung (stormtroopers), but on Friday afternoon the Appeal Court handed down a big decision for British democracy.

Today's headline in the Heil on Sunday is predictably hysterical.

Jeremy Corbyn reignites race row engulfing Labour as he launches vicious act of revenge and purges top Jewish donor who criticised his regime

It wasn't Corbyn who suspended Foster, it was McNicol.

 

[Ranbay]

 

[Pickman's model]

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[Pickman's model]

Jeremy Corbyn ‘too busy’ for visit to Israel’s Holocaust museum

Not too clever there Jezza...

I note he isn't visiting a beach or a bar or sewage works or undertakers while he's there either.

 

[agricola]

In other news, Michael Foster has been suspended.

All I could think on reading the Foster piece, was that his probably expensive lawyers must not have told him why he lost.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Jeremy Corbyn ‘too busy’ for visit to Israel’s Holocaust museum

Not too clever there Jezza...

Entirely sensible of Corbyn. Deferring a visit to Yad Vashem that was offered by the Israeli Labor Party makes perfect sense. As for LFI having a pop at him, they're shills for Zionism. Always have been, always will be.

Of course, you'd have to have some kind of idea about the various perambulations into racism and fascism that Labor has made, to understand why deferring is sensible, and I suspect that you don't.

 

[Ole]

There's an absolute fucking pearler in The Times today.

Spoiler: The Times piece

The embattled Labour leader, Jeremy Corbyn, was accused of deliberately courting controversy last night when he failed to condemn unequivocally the 9/11 terrorist attacks...

"My thoughts are with those whose lives were shattered 15 years ago in the horrific atrocity on 9/11 - and in the wars and terror unleashed across the globe in its aftermath."

One Labour MP accused him of making the "deeply upsetting" comments to boost his leadership campaign.

 

[Mr.Bishie]

kin ell!

 

[Ole]

It's definitely the best one yet isn't it

It's genuinely possibly the best one of all-time - in any country. We are getting right up there now.

 

[Fez909]

"He's got mass appeal to a small section of the electorate"

Why isn't this nonsense ever challenged? The follow up question should have been, "do you know what mass appeal even means, Owen?"

 

[gosub]

"He's got mass appeal to a small section of the electorate"

Why isn't this nonsense ever challenged? The follow up question should have been, "do you know what mass appeal even means, Owen?"

I think he meant Corbyn is marmite, andhe thinks he can win because he is magnolia

I fucking hate beige

 

[Fez909]

He means Mr Corbyn is marmite, and can win because he is magnolia.


I fucking hate beige

Corbyn is marmite, tbf.

Owen Smith's not even beige. He's vegemite. A pale immitation of marmite that nobody wants because why not have the genuine thing?

 

[J Ed]

Labour's shock Sheffield by-election defeat 'not about Jeremy Corbyn', says Lib Dem winner

The woman who won a surprise Sheffield by-election victory over Labour has insisted that Jeremy Corbyn was not the reason for her success. Liberal Democrat Gail Smith made the comments after being elected to represent the Mosborough ward in a by-election called following the death of Labour councillor Isobel Bowler earlier this year.

In a surprise result, she beat Labour party candidate and current Stocksbridge town councillor Julie Grocutt - just months after the Lib Dems came fourth in the ward. Penistone and Stocksbridge MP Angela Smith has suggested the result was down to traditional Labour voters in Mosborough turning their backs on the party due to Jeremy Corbyn’s leadership - but Councillor Smith said she didn’t believe that was the case. Writing on the Star website, she said: “My Lib Dems team and I have spent the last 10 weeks working seven days a week in Mosborough, knocking on just about every door, and I can tell you Jeremy Corbyn was more popular than Angela Smith wants to admit. I certainly do not agree that is why I won.

“Most people told us that they never saw Labour, only at election time and they felt taken for granted. One lady told me that she had been canvassed by Labour, who when she told them she was voting for me, was told 'You cannot vote Lib Dems, you live in a Labour area'. “And that is the arrogance of this Labour Party here in Sheffield - Corbyn is not as unpopular as they would like you to think. They need to look very closely at their own leadership in Sheffield.”

IME a lot of people in Sheffield really do hate the Labour council.

 

[andysays]

"He's got mass appeal to a small section of the electorate"

Why isn't this nonsense ever challenged? The follow up question should have been, "do you know what mass appeal even means, Owen?"

Whereas Smith has negligible appeal to the vast mass of the electorate.

It doesn't really need to be challenged by the interviewer - one way or another, he shows himself up as a cunt every time he opens his mouth...

 

[gosub]

Corbyn is marmite, tbf.

Owen Smith's not even beige. He's vegemite. A pale immitation of marmite that nobody wants because why not have the genuine thing?

Agreed. But he's taking less people not buying vegmite as having less haters.......anything to keep the self delusion going.

 

[newbie]

the first 5 minutes or so of the World at One are well worth a listen. Foster first, live, saying he'd been purged because McDonnel, then pre-recorded McDonnel condemning the purge(s), then Foster saying McDonnel was sly and to blame anyway. Wonderful stuff.