J Ed
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Good points, and I would imagine that effect is magnified even more when the Labour candidate is not local.
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Good points, and I would imagine that effect is magnified even more when the Labour candidate is not local.
timeforanother
Cynic, and loves it when people are just lovely.
I just got a new membership card for that labour party, so I guess my vote was counted, despite chiding my party local secretary that our leafleting should take leasons from Class War, and Workers Liberty are being far too sensitive about the allegations of antisemitism (I don't need to feel sensitive given my roots here).
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I know, I know, he's not the messiah. He isn't Kinnock or Blair either. A mass labour movement that is united could start to make a differnce. Nothing was built in a day, not even an airfix kit if it deserves painting properly.
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Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
yeh it's all over for the labour party now
last nail in auld corbo's coffin
*treelover sips champagne, glorying in the socialists' sorrow*
she won the ward with almost a 1000 majority in 2008. Sheffield City Council election, 2008 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
Dimble bum had a sly smirk on his face as the end bit was done. Could just have resting smugface tho
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Starry Wisdom
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J Ed
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The anti-Corbynites were posting that picture within seconds of the result. One of the reasons for the pearl clutching apparently was the fact that they were phone canvassing while drinking, something that apparently must never be done. Considering the hysteria over the after work drinks stuff you could be forgiven for being a bit confused as to what approach you are supposed to have to alcohol.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
tbh if september doesn't end soon everyones going to be on the suace
J Ed
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Within the Labour Party, with those opposing Corbyn at least, surely everyone already must be? In political history, have so many people ever been so continually outraged and offended by so little for so long?
Vintage Paw
dead stare and computer glare
Burnham's got his mayoral thing though. I don't think he's going to want to return to leadership stuff again. Not saying there wasn't anything strategic in him being quiet -- of course there was, he had a mayoral race to win.
Vintage Paw
dead stare and computer glare
The majority of them will follow suit. The ones most likely to resign the whip are those who have a strong relationship with their constituents and can make a case for them voting indie rather than sticking with the LP loyalty. I wonder, then, how much Jess Phillips has been cultivating her relationships with her constituents that she feels so certain she could resign the whip? And I wonder whether she's ever even thought about it in terms of loyalty to the party name.
You only have to look at the fact the seat here has remained staunchly Labour despite the parachuting of Trissy to see it's the party affiliation that matters. There will be exceptions, but they're exceptions that prove the rule.
If Trissy resigned the whip (he won't) he'd lose his seat without a shadow of a doubt. He's likely to anyway because Stoke's almost definitely going to be losing a seat in the boundary review, and I'm reasonably certain he'd be okay with going now his ambitions of front bench-hood have been briefly realised and then potentially taken away for good.
If Joan Whalley was still MP for Stoke North she'd be an example of someone who could potentially risk it (I'm not sure she would have, though, nor that she'd have still won), because she was generally well-liked for helping her constituents locally, but now she's been replaced by Ruth Smeeth...
You keep hearing this nonsense about MPs getting their mandate from the electorate and not the members, but it fundamentally misunderstands the role of party and affiliation/loyalty. 1) it misunderstands the fact that people vote for the party in the main (as explained above) and not for individual MPs; and 2) it misunderstands that with 1 being what it is it's the party selectorate who ultimately give the mandate to a particular MP to represent the party in that seat. Without the party these MPs wouldn't exist, and would certainly have never been elected. Perhaps it should be that the MPs get their mandate from the electorate, but that isn't the reality of party politics.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Streatham CLP is. The boundary changes are likely to mean that Chuka retains the northern half of Streatham, and takes a bite out of southern and central Brixton too, and it might be a harder sell to the Dulwich & West Norwood CLP, to see a lump of their constituency being nicked.
Monkeygrinder's Organ
Dodgy geezer swilling vapid lager
I would absolutely love to see some of those people chance their arms against an official Labour party candidate. I'd be staying up all night just to see Hunt's face.
I doubt any of them are quite that stupid though unfortunately whatever they might say about their personal mandates.
andysays
Love and solidarity
That's an interesting idea, but rather a dangerous precedent for him to set. I wonder if it will work when the rest of us refuse to accept results of elections, votes in Parliament, etc on the basis that the electorate was lied to
And not forgetting the Labour members on the ground leafletting, canvassing, getting nominations etc.
Oh, hang on. They seem to have forgotten the Labour party members on the ground. Or maybe not *forgotten*, more like 'we know better than them and can ignore their views' until of course they need them for the work on the ground that gets/keeps them elected.
Vintage Paw
dead stare and computer glare
You've got to be the right kind of member, Sue. For a start, you've got to have been door knocking at least once a week for at least 10 years. And you've also got to not like Corbyn. Then, and only then, are you a 'real' member who matters. Only then are you the lifeblood of the party.
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
The headline says one thing, but the contents are a bit of a mixed bag and the mix is in favour of the plotters. This is a stand-out paragraph.
"A former frontbencher"? Typical. But here we have another example of just how incapable these people are at taking responsibility for their actions. Remember: these are the people that continue to blame the SNP for losing Scotland. In this case they're blaming Corbyn's supporters for their unpopularity.
"A former frontbencher"? Typical. But here we have another example of just how incapable these people are at taking responsibility for their actions. Remember: these are the people that continue to blame the SNP for losing Scotland. In this case they're blaming Corbyn's supporters for their unpopularity.
Kaka Tim
Half Arsed and Slapdash till I Die
I caught Dan Jarvis on any questions. Corbyn should be thanked for "reminding" the labour party of its roots and shadow cabinet elections will unite the party and make it better at reaching out. Clear implication that the message to Jezza is actually "thankyou and fuck off".
Again it seems that the old gaurd are accepting they are going to have to talk the talk on being less rightwing - but through audibly gritted teeth.
Again it seems that the old gaurd are accepting they are going to have to talk the talk on being less rightwing - but through audibly gritted teeth.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Because he hates Jews? Thinks the holocaust didn't happen? Because you arrogantly place too weight much on what you deem important?
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Jesus.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
April this.
J Ed
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Why should he go to Israel exactly? Maybe the Israeli Labour Party should sort out trying to stop their support of ethnic cleansing, torture, illegal occupation etc before they try and guilt Corbyn into going to their museum which is itself built on top of land that Israel occupies illegally.
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