DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
I do not trust e voting at all. Theres evidence of widespread corruption and fraud in the USA. I don't know about india specifically but I bet theres been shennanigans there as well.
Jeremy Corbyn's time is up
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kabbes
First intersubjective, then internalised
ItWillNeverWork
Messy Crimbobs, fellow humans.
DrRingDing
'anti-human wanker'
So, let's compare it to traditional paper voting. During the count there are many people counting and many people watching the count. If one or two people are corrupt and get away with adding or subtracting votes the damage would most likely be minimal.
Whereas how many cyber security engineers are there? How many people wrote this software? How many people are involved in the count. It's essentially a black box in that pretty everybody cannot look and understand the underlying mechanisms. Even if you were a security software engineer chances are you'd miss something lurking in there.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
what a load of drivel. If you actually believe this nonsense you are worse than Jazzzzz. And if you are unaware of how so many 'paper' elections have been fiddled, then you need to read a bit more.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
tbf, neither have I,....but I did teach for 30 years.
Brixton Hatter
Home is south London mate
There is very good encryption and two factor authentication in electronic voting these days. It's not beyond subversion (nothing is) but then again neither is the current paper voting system.
The advantage is electronic voting potentially enables more people to vote.
The advantage is electronic voting potentially enables more people to vote.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
you underestimate the ability of one or two determined people to stuff ballot boxes.
DrRingDing
'anti-human wanker'
Prove me wrong. This is something i know a little about.
DrRingDing
'anti-human wanker'
2FA and transit encryption is irrelevant if there is a vulnerability or malicous code further up the chain.
DrRingDing
'anti-human wanker'
Watch that video.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
No it isn't
DrRingDing
'anti-human wanker'
Grow up.
Rob Ray
Weight is meaningless
In fairness it's not unheard of for election system cracking to happen, but it requires a lot of expertise, money and time. In many cases just turning a couple of paper ballot-counters in marginals is potentially a lot simpler/easier (not that I've done either, obv).
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DrRingDing
'anti-human wanker'
Take for instance the long and arduous audit of Truecrypt. Even though they had funding and the experts to do a highly professional job there were still vulnerabilities found by other people post audit.
Ted Striker
Foot's on the other hand
That's somewhere in Manchester. Peckham is se15.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
Show don't tell. If you want anyone to believe you, put forward some evidence, not just absurd assertion.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
I know...but I'm more down with da yoot than you are...obviously.
DrRingDing
'anti-human wanker'
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
e voting is deffo easier to rig. You don't get caught in TH with a bootfull of ballot papers where they shouldn't be for starters
fuck seals
Well-Known Member
& *much* easier to scale too
Monkeygrinder's Organ
Dodgy geezer swilling vapid lager
As if the Labour party wouldn't completely fuck it up if they tried. 'So, no votes for Corbyn, 120,000 for Owen Smith and 315 million for Ed the Duck...'
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
You don't get the notion of providing evidence do you?
Still waiting for you to provide some for the notion that evoting has been more victim to fraud than paper voting. Not just that it's possible to carry out such fraud, but that it's actually happened. In our reality.
DrRingDing
'anti-human wanker'
Labour party or a small band of tories at GCHQ?
andysays
Love and solidarity
So rather than talking in generalities, maybe you could explain to the rest of us
- who you think is likely to be rigging the current vote
- how they are going to achieve that (given that it's being run/supervised by the ERS) and
- to what end exactly?
DrRingDing
'anti-human wanker'
So you admit it's totally possible?
teuchter
je suis teuchter
just watch the video kabbes posted on the previous page.
DrRingDing
'anti-human wanker'
1. It seems many parts of the state are going above and beyond to undermine Corbyn.
2. I refer you to my earlier point about auditing
3. To prevent the potential power shift in the Labour party.
Rob Ray
Weight is meaningless
The question isn't whether it's possible (the old canard is that any system built by humans can be exploited by humans) but whether it's easy and/or likely.
andysays
Love and solidarity
All those answers are so vague as to be worthless
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