Jeremy Corbyn's time is up

[DotCommunist]

headless chickens

 

[quimcunx]

I've had a really odd email from Labour this morning.

Saying that I was eligible to vote in last year's leadership election as an affiliated supporter (no I wasn't - I paid £3). And that they are re-checking with my affiliated organisation (I have no idea what this is) to make sure I have continued my membership (that I never had) and they will then check me against the electoral roll (which I am on) and get back to me with details of my vote.

Wut?

My current actual status is:

Paid £3 last year to vote.
Joined the LP shortly after Brexit as a full member.
Joined Unite a few days later after the vote rigging shenanigans began.
Paid my £25 when it emerged I wouldn't be able to vote via Unite either.

So, wut?

Their admin systems are a absolute mess, I have it on good authority, even without what the recent coup and NEC shambles have done to confuse matters.

As an affiliate member I don't get to vote in the NEC do I? Anyone know? That's what they've told me but I'm not taking their word for it.

Unite has given me 3 conflicting pieces of advice on the leadership election today, none of them the answer to my actual question so I guess they are struggling to keep up too.

 

[Vintage Paw]

My biggest worry atm is they'll look into this 'affiliated organisation' and discover I wasn't a member and tell me I don't have a vote, entirely ignoring the fact I paid £25 to get one as a registered supporter.

This is going to be a pain, isn't it?

 

[quimcunx]

Yes. Yes it is.

 

[DotCommunist]

its almost like there is an inept attempt to disenfranchise new members

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

Got to love this bit:

But pressed on his remarks by 5 News he said: "Perhaps it backfired, but we should have a bit of robust language in politics, I think."

Robust language eh? Unless it's from someone you don't like then it's abuse.

 

[Vintage Paw]

Got to love this bit:



Robust language eh? Unless it's from someone you don't like then it's abuse.

Right? The hypocrisy. You can understand why people want to hurl expletives (and tomatoes and eggs) at them.

 

[maomao]

Right? The hypocrisy. You can understand why people want to hurl expletives (and tomatoes and eggs) at them.

And rocks.

And grenades.

 

[Whagwan]

Got to laugh at this from the right given all they've done to disenfranchise members in the leadership election and purge the left from the last one:

"Some Smith supporters raised concerns that the email could have been designed to identify those who are not loyal to the current leader – information that could potentially be used against them.

Linda Grant, a Labour member and novelist, said she feared being put on a “disloyal” list after ticking a box saying she would not support the leadership if Corbyn won.


“What I meant is that I would still be a member of the Labour party and would still vote Labour, but I probably wouldn’t actively campaign because it would seem like a waste of energy,” she said.

Tom Blenkinsop, a Labour MP and Smith supporter, said members should be careful about handing over that information to the Corbyn leadership campaign, which required “North Korea-style loyalty” from members even though Corbyn had rarely been supportive of his predecessors.

“They draw up lists. It’s what the hard left do,” said Blenkinsop. “They draw up lists of people with j’accuse and all that type of nonsense. It’s all they are interested in – identifying traitors.

“I wouldn’t reply to anything that [the Corbynist grassroots movement] Momentum sends. They are not affiliated and should be proscribed. They can change their name but it’s the same thing – if people are wise, they will see it is the devious politics of the hard left.”"

 

[quimcunx]

its almost like there is an inept attempt to disenfranchise new members

Yes, but I still wouldn't attribute to malice what can be attributed to a bollocksed up admin system.

 

[Vintage Paw]

Yes, but I still wouldn't attribute to malice what can be attributed to a bollocksed up admin system.

I agree. I can also understand why it's tempting to attribute it to malice since they've hardly been embarrassed at their blatant bullshittery recently.

 

[two sheds]

"What do we want?"
"One-hour contracts"
"When do we want them?"
"As soon as employers can reasonably incorporate them into their busy business schedules lets look again in say 2019 perhaps ..."

 

[elbows]

I am starting to get the impression that some journalists who have to deal with Smith don't like him and are trying harder than normal to trap him, make him look stupid (not hard) or dig up stuff from his past (e.g. the bitter question time gender remark he made off-air).

What a shame To be honest I might have made this comment prematurely and don't have a suitable quantity of examples to make the argument properly yet but hey, he is such a useless sack of shit that I thought I'd get in early.

When the dust settles I might offer him a one minute contract, thats the important thing.

 

[Sifta]

Right? The hypocrisy. You can understand why people want to hurl expletives (and tomatoes and eggs) at them.

Read that as explosives, but expletives will do

 

[elbows]

Someone from RT is amused by the sarcasm team Corbyn can throw almost effortlessly at Smith now.

The team has, apparently sarcastically, lauded the adoption by Owen Smith of a number of the current leader’s policies in recent days.

A spokesman for the ‘Jeremy for Labour’ campaign told the Guardian on Wednesday that the campaign welcomed Smith’s “focus on equality of outcome, re-industrialisation, and workers’ rights,” as well as his “support for policies announced in recent months by Jeremy Corbyn and John McDonnell.”

The campaign also applauded Smith for “repeating the Labour leader’s call for a ban on exclusive workforce recruitment from abroad, made during the referendum campaign, among other policies.”

“Owen’s speech today shows the leadership that Jeremy Corbyn has demonstrated in placing economic justice and fairness back at the heart of Labour politics,” the spokesman added.

Is Labour leadership challenger Owen Smith just copying Corbyn’s ideas?

 

[ViolentPanda]

That's what I would expect a lawyer to do in court, they have special ones for legal terms of course

And Archbold, for making oneself look taller in court, if you're a criminal lawyer.

 

[ViolentPanda]

"Lawyers" "whoring themselves". Your point is?

That lawyers have a keen but sometimes over-inflated sense of their value?

 

[ViolentPanda]

There's a whole page of me beating my head against the wall,

Pics or gtfo!

 

[Pickman's model]

I think they mean the Glass Plate uni's of the sixties when they say the 'new' Universities.

yeh but what unis have they championed recently? eh? eh?

 

[Pickman's model]

The lawyers that have made arguments against Corbyn being on the ballot are surely just whoring themselves.

at least with whores there is a certain honesty about their profession not found with barristers

 

[ViolentPanda]

Read that as explosives, but expletives will do

An expletive earlier:

 

[Sifta]

Oh the bastards
No they are though
For want of a better word
The erudite is all very well but
I shall be erudite but
Long live the expletive

 

[two sheds]

Another great headline from the Independent. The article slates Owen Smith and his campaign, taking the piss throughout. The headline:

Owen Smith just gave his leadership speech and Labour is a complete mess

Not 'he' or 'it' is a complete mess but 'Labour', giving the impression that Corbyn's responsible for that too.

Owen Smith just gave his leadership speech and Labour is a complete mess

 

[squirrelp]

I intended no disrespect to professionals in the sex industry with my lawyers remark

 

[Wilf]

Corbyn ally suggests Labour could form pacts with parties across left

Clive Lewis calls for some kind of electoral arrangement with greens, libscum and snp. Apart from the fact it won't happen, it's a bit of an admission of weakness, explicitly saying Labour can't win on their own (even if its true).

 

[Raheem]

Corbyn ally suggests Labour could form pacts with parties across left

Clive Lewis calls for some kind of electoral arrangement with greens, libscum and snp. Apart from the fact it won't happen, it's a bit of an admission of weakness, explicitly saying Labour can't win on their own (even if its true).

Why do you say it won't happen? I'm not saying it will, but I can't see why it's so implausible.

 

[Wilf]

Why do you say it won't happen? I'm not saying it will, but I can't see why it's so implausible.

Greens might well, libs probably won't, snp absolutely won't. It would also be a major wrench for labour, a party who won 3 elections on the run shifting to the point where they don't fight every seat.

 

[Supine]

Another great headline from the Independent. The article slates Owen Smith and his campaign, taking the piss throughout. The headline:



Not 'he' or 'it' is a complete mess but 'Labour', giving the impression that Corbyn's responsible for that too.

Owen Smith just gave his leadership speech and Labour is a complete mess

The headline is factually correct. In this day and age you should applaud a journalist for managing that little

 

[Raheem]

Greens might well, libs probably won't, snp absolutely won't. It would also be a major wrench for labour, a party who won 3 elections on the run shifting to the point where they don't fight every seat.

Couldn't it be a major boost for the LDs? It's not something I've studied, but there are probably a lot of seats they could potentially take from the Tories if there were no Labour candidate. SNP is a lot less obvious, but what might Labour offer to induce them?

 

[squirrelp]

Owen Smith has lifted an Alan Partridge quote... "we need revolution, not evolution"



hope he keeps them coming