Jeremy Corbyn's time is up

[killer b]

Look at how successful the Labour RW's smears have been. Why would anyone want to ape their tactics?

There seems to be a bizarre attempt to smear Smith as a wife beater going on (I guess this latest thing feeds into that), which is just mental.

 

[DotCommunist]

Yes, normally used as a term of astonishment, as with 'I was taken aback'.

see also: shaken/shocked to the core. Anyone who doesn't use that in a deprecating manner is a dick

 

[YouSir]

Look at how successful the Labour RW's smears have been. Why would anyone want to ape their tactics?

There seems to be a bizarre attempt to smear Smith as a wife beater going on (I guess this latest thing feeds into that), which is just mental.

How the fuck did that article even get written? Random speculation based on a random comment from an unnamed reader. Fuck Smith and all but that's still a disgrace.

 

[dennisr]

Owen Smith has just publicly attacked John McDonnell for never having done anything on employment rights.

"McDonnell has been on more early morning picket lines & protests than any other MP I can think of. John was a founder member of the Blacklist Support Group, fighting our cause when not many others were that interested. That's why the rank & file of the labour movement consider him one of our own."

(from Dave Smith - Blacklist Support Group)

 

[eoin_k]

How the fuck did that article even get written? Random speculation based on a random comment from an unnamed reader. Fuck Smith and all but that's still a disgrace.

It is published by the writer's own website.

 

[ska invita]

Seems to be his own violent version of this:

To put someone on their heels' is a variation on 'rock someone back on their heels'.

set (or rock) someone back on their heels
Definition of set or rock someone back on their heels in English:
Astonish or disconcert someone:
'She said something that rocked me back on my heels'. 'Then, just as the team seemed to be establishing a foothold, two interceptions set them back on their heels'. 'A tremendous drive set them back on their heels, forcing them to concede a penalty.' 'They counter attack from deep in their own defence and our forwards should have been tackling them with a ferocity that would have disrupted them and rocked them back on their heels near their own lines.'

Essentially it describes a physical shock that almost knocks someone backward, but they manage to retain their balance while pivoting on the heels of their shoes. The next stage would be, 'To knock someone on their back (or whatever local expression applies to buttocks).'


What's the meaning of "put someone on one's heels"?

To rock someone back on their heels is a pretty standard term, he seems to have tried to mix it with an aggressive tone but was too linguistically incompetent to do so elegantly and ended up just sounding like an abusive prick.

quick, we've got a couple more dictionary users here!

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

In shocking news the Guardian thinks Smith's launch speech has suddenly made him competitive. Who would have thought?

 

[squirrelp]

The betting markets think Corbyn is automatically on the ballot.

British Politics Labour Leadership Election Betting Odds | Politics

 

[Raheem]

IMO, it's not worth picking holes in Owen Smith when he's doing his "Tonight, Matthew..." left-wing act. Maybe it's not authentic, and by all means point that out, but it contributes usefully to exorcising Blairism-Brownism. He's not going to win, because JC as leader is pretty much an unofficial clause in the Labour Party constitution for the immediate future. Anyone saying they want to (figuratively) smash Theresa May is likely to be a good thing.

 

[Pickman's model]

In shocking news the Guardian thinks Smith's launch speech has suddenly made him competitive. Who would have thought?

the guardian really is shit these days

 

[belboid]

The betting markets think Corbyn is automatically on the ballot.

British Politics Labour Leadership Election Betting Odds | Politics

The Betting markets think we're still in the eu

 

[hash tag]

We are still in the EU?

 

[Xenonxenon]

We are still in the EU?

Yes.

 

[brogdale]

This thread just gets better and better.

 

[J Ed]

Quick, someone consult the dictionary to check whether we are still in the EU

 

[killer b]

Quick, someone consult the dictionary to check whether we are still in the EU

I think you need Wikipedia for that.

 

[kabbes]

Labour was formed as the party of the worker. But we’ve forgotten who that is | Yvette Cooper

Words fail me. We should all back Owen Smith because only he has a strong, loud voice?

And fuck what that voice is shouting, so long as you can hear it rasping out its nonsense, apparently. "We may argue amongst ourselves about whether we are too far to the right or left, but the real question is whether our whole movement is being left behind."

 

[gawkrodger]

Purely anecdotal, but I've had 3 phonecalls over the past week from Unite, all letting me know I'm eligible to vote in the leadership election and that Unite suggest I vote for Corbyn

 

[DotCommunist]

yvette cooper talking about the party of the coalfields and socialism. Pull the other one.

 

[kabbes]

yvette cooper talking about the party of the coalfields and socialism. Pull the other one.

Don't worry. That's only what it was founded as.

"As work changed in the white-collar revolution, Labour policies adapted to keep up. We championed technology, new universities, the unionisation of public-sector workers, new rights for women, an end to discrimination, the national minimum wage, tax credits and Sure Start."

It's all about white-collar workers now.

 

[J Ed]

Don't worry. That's only what it was founded as.

"As work changed in the white-collar revolution, Labour policies adapted to keep up. We championed technology, new universities, the unionisation of public-sector workers, new rights for women, an end to discrimination, the national minimum wage, tax credits and Sure Start."

It's all about white-collar workers now.

If this actually included proletarianised 'white collar' jobs then that would be great but they don't mean that, they mean start up workfare IT consultant wankers.

 

[kabbes]

Some of my best friends are IT consultant wankers.



Actually, that's not true. It just amused me to say it. I confess in the name of St. Jeremy.

 

[Pickman's model]

Don't worry. That's only what it was founded as.

"As work changed in the white-collar revolution, Labour policies adapted to keep up. We championed technology, new universities, the unionisation of public-sector workers, new rights for women, an end to discrimination, the national minimum wage, tax credits and Sure Start."

It's all about white-collar workers now.

i would have liked them to champion new universities: these would i suppose be the former polys. but er they were turned into universities by the tories. what would have been nice was for "non-traditional learners", people who aren't 18-21 or from a middle class background, to be championed by the labour party, with e.g. the open university able to retain its lower fees so people could study at home. but their fees have gone through the fucking roof. same with other avenues of part-time study. they went through the fucking roof under er labour.

 

[DotCommunist]

'bring out the banners from the days gone by'

this really is thin gruel indeed, fronting up a transparent cunt like owen and warming over the founding myths of the labour party, mentioning the fabians without spitting and so on. These complete cunts, playing catch up with opinion and desperate to unseat corbyn. So much so they dare utter the dreaded S word. Don't expect to hear it again if they get their man in

 

[littlebabyjesus]

'bring out the banners from the days gone by'

this really is thin gruel indeed, fronting up a transparent cunt like owen and warming over the founding myths of the labour party, mentioning the fabians without spitting and so on. These complete cunts, playing catch up with opinion and desperate to unseat corbyn. So much so they dare utter the dreaded S word. Don't expect to hear it again if they get their man in

Even Blair used the S word before he was elected. A Christian S, mind, whatever that's supposed to be.

 

[belboid]

i would have liked them to champion new universities: these would i suppose be the former polys. but er they were turned into universities by the tories. what would have been nice was for "non-traditional learners", people who aren't 18-21 or from a middle class background, to be championed by the labour party, with e.g. the open university able to retain its lower fees so people could study at home. but their fees have gone through the fucking roof. same with other avenues of part-time study. they went through the fucking roof under er labour.

I think they mean the Glass Plate uni's of the sixties when they say the 'new' Universities.

 

[belboid]

We are still in the EU?

Doh! You know what I mean

 

[J Ed]

The thing is that he obviously just has no idea what is going on in the world of ordinary people.

 

[kabbes]

Hahahahahahahaha.

The important thing is that it is not zero. Yes, Smith. That is the important thing. The important thing. The important thing.

 

[Vintage Paw]

I've had a really odd email from Labour this morning.

Saying that I was eligible to vote in last year's leadership election as an affiliated supporter (no I wasn't - I paid £3). And that they are re-checking with my affiliated organisation (I have no idea what this is) to make sure I have continued my membership (that I never had) and they will then check me against the electoral roll (which I am on) and get back to me with details of my vote.

Wut?

My current actual status is:

Paid £3 last year to vote.
Joined the LP shortly after Brexit as a full member.
Joined Unite a few days later after the vote rigging shenanigans began.
Paid my £25 when it emerged I wouldn't be able to vote via Unite either.

So, wut?