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Jeremy Corbyn's time is up

I'd have to check.
while doing so consider that in less than 24 hours of the NEC there's a union recruitment drive going on. An initiative like that during the Poll Tax rebellion would have slowly circulated via pamphlets, weekly and monthly papers and flyposters. Or, for for the majority who didn't see any of that, by word of mouth so what you knew depended on who you knew and what they happened to say. I'm not pretending mobile technology changes the rules of the game but it's currently tipping people into participation and helping erode the power of the professionals. Right now I see that as being core not froth, you?

Longterm, who knows? It may prove to be froth, but I draw some hope from the role of the fax machine in samizdat circulation.
 
while doing so consider that in less than 24 hours of the NEC there's a union recruitment drive going on. An initiative like that during the Poll Tax rebellion would have slowly circulated via pamphlets, weekly and monthly papers and flyposters. Or, for for the majority who didn't see any of that, by word of mouth so what you knew depended on who you knew and what they happened to say. I'm not pretending mobile technology changes the rules of the game but it's currently tipping people into participation and helping erode the power of the professionals. Right now I see that as being core not froth, you?

Longterm, who knows? It may prove to be froth, but I draw some hope from the role of the fax machine in samizdat circulation.

During the 2015 leadership election the Unite phone canvassing for Corbyn was really solid, we'll see a repeat of that.
 
Please understand this is not a criticism in anyway of anyone on the boards. But I am surprised by the number of posters on here who are not members of a trade union.
I know that there is a significant cost and also the reputation of unions for being more interested in selling insurance etc can put people off. As well as the crippling laws that prevent former union effectiveness.
This brings my other off topic point that the Labour Party, though eager to grasp the support of trade unions as never as much lifted one finger to repeal the draconian anti-union laws.
No offence intended as I said above, just an observation.
Some of us are union members but our unions are not affiliated to Labour
 
I can't believe they are trying to stitch it up with a price hike.

they really have pissed their chips.
if as some of the labour right claim the pro Corbyn lot are all middle class they'll be able to afford £25 easily - didn't think that through I fear
 
I can't believe they are trying to stitch it up with a price hike.

they really have pissed their chips.
I can't really complain about the price hike for one-off voters; that was always on the cards

I don't see how it is lawful to stop everyone who has joined since January 12 from voting tho. that can't stand can it?
 
I can't believe they are trying to stitch it up with a price hike.

they really have pissed their chips.

Not only that but some right-wing Labour MPs are claiming that it was Corbyn wot done it to keep the sudden flood of anti-Corbyn members (lol) from ousting him.
 
Well, if thousands of new members are barred from voting or have to stump up an extra £25, will they be pissed off enough to "get their money's worth" by getting stuck into other changing the Labour party type activities?

...or is "voting for Corbyn" pretty much it?
 
Message to disabled people regarding Owen Smith MPs Leadership bid

Message to disabled people regarding Owen Smith MPs Leadership bid

Liza Van Zyl, a disability rights activist has made this statement:

‘Owen Smith needs to be challenged robustly on his position on the Work Capability Assessment and on his commitment to disabled people’s rights. I was a Labour Party activist who had no choice but to resign from the party after a very unpleasant encounter with Mr Smith. I am recounting it now because I believe it is very important that his views are robustly challenged if he stands for the Labour leadership.

On Saturday 7th March 2015 I attended a Labour meeting in Pontypridd at which the guest speaker was Owen Smith MP, then shadow secretary of state for Wales. When questions were invited from the floor, I asked Mr Smith why, given that the Work Capability Assessment (WCA) has been responsible for a great many more deaths than the Bedroom Tax, Labour had pledged to scrap the Bedroom Tax but had said nothing about pledging to scrap the WCA. Mr Smith replied that Labour could not pledge to scrap the WCA because this would make Labour appear weak on benefits in the eyes of the media and compromise Labour’s general-election chances.

I posted this on Facebook and a journalist took it up and posted the story online. Subsequently the journalist was threatened with legal action by Mr Smith if he did not take the story down. I was very intimidated by the prospect of defending myself in court, and I had no money for a legal defence. In addition my Labour colleagues were terribly keen to maintain good relations with Mr Smith and would probably have backed Mr Smith and not me if it came to a court case (one of them had even contacted the journalist and briefed against me). So I asked the journalist to pull the story and I deleted references to it on Facebook.

I am publicising this incident now because I am very concerned about Mr Smith’s attitude toward disabled people and particularly to his views that the deaths of disabled people are less important than Labour’s “tough on benefits” standing in the right wing press. If he threatens me with legal action again it will be incredibly stressful and will probably exacerbate my disability-related ill-health. But I believe it is important that Mr Smith’s attitudes to the WCA and to disability rights (and freedom of speech!) be robustly challenged if he stands for the Labour leadership. And because we should be able to discuss things that profoundly impact on us, like the WCA, without being intimidated into silence by threats of legal action. I am happy to provide more details to journalists who can contact me at [email protected]
 
Not only that but some right-wing Labour MPs are claiming that it was Corbyn wot done it to keep the sudden flood of anti-Corbyn members (lol) from ousting him.
heh, the desperation now is turning vicious. He just won't give us our party back :(

Arise Sir Owen. Interesting to read comments on his planet sized ego. Him and she who soars must be those sort of people who are so arrogant they actually deny reality and listen instead to anything that endorses them. Whats the word. Narcissism
 
There's a sort of logic to limiting the registered supporters sign up period, given the shambles there was last time with regard to the verification process. But 2 days is a pisstake. They knew they couldn't get rid of the whole category so did everything they could to 'vandalise' the process. Making it dearer to have a single vote than to be a reduced member is outrageous. And they wouldn't even be embarrassed that they've excluded most people on benefits.

But if anything the January deadline for members to vote is the bigger pisstake. Apart from the fact it's a retrospective action - those people would have signed up having written promises they could vote in subsequent elections - the January date is dishonest. It goes back a previous set of regulations that are no longer in place. The only reasonable date to put in would have been the date Eagle put in her papers to trigger the process. Sorry, obvious points, I just find it astonishing.
 
New members can vote on NEC election, so vote in Corbyn supporting candidates and there's time yet to revert back to proper voting rules.
I'm not sure, but I suspect the new NEC only comes in at the Conference in September.
 
I'm sure that Unite Community is just for unwaged.

If you are not in paid employment; a student, carer, retired or unemployed, membership costs just 50p a week which can be paid annually or monthly by Direct Debit. Unite is currently looking into other forms of payment for those who do not have bank accounts, such as pay point and cash payments. You can join online, collect an application form at any one of Unite’s local offices or download a form via the website www.unitetheunion.org/community. If a member finds paid work after joining Unite Community, they will either transfer onto the full Unite membership rate or be advised to join the appropriate union if the work is not in an area covered by Unite. If you join another union for work, you can still maintain your Unite Community Membership and continue campaigning for a better society within your community group
 
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