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Is this woman a transphobe?

Generally avoid trans threads because I don't really understand it well enough to make a contribution and it's not something that directly affects me so I don't have any insights. So this is a drive by post.

I also think this thread should be nuked from orbit. Started by a shit stirring little bigot who for some reason people want to pussy foot around and make allowances and excuses for. Fuck that, I'll call it as I see it. Whatever they may have been before coop is now just a weirdly obsessed nasty piece of work now.

But if it's not going to be binned off it would be improved greatly if the likes of Athos , Border Reiver and the like could be persuaded to stfu. You're not helping.
 
Generally avoid trans threads because I don't really understand it well enough to make a contribution and it's not something that directly affects me so I don't have any insights. So this is a drive by post.

I also think this thread should be nuked from orbit. Started by a shit stirring little bigot who for some reason people want to pussy foot around and make allowances and excuses for. Fuck that, I'll call it as I see it. Whatever they may have been before coop is now just a weirdly obsessed nasty piece of work now.

But if it's not going to be binned off it would be improved greatly if the likes of Athos , Border Reiver and the like could be persuaded to stfu. You're not helping.
So you do not support protection of trans rights. I see.
 
The content is reasonable enough IMO. Just a posting style that's rubbing everyone up the wrong way.
But ‘ignoring’ 60% of posters who raise a challenge seems not to be behaviour in good faith. And the seeming high levels understanding of ‘U75 grammar’ says either a very very long term lurker- or a second account, sock puppet or returner to me.

I also worried this whole thread was a bit spiteful after the issues with the main one. That this Buffoon should rock up at exactly the same time got my spider senses tingling.

Anyway, my suspicions won’t matter to said buffoon as I am on a ‘double’ ignore.
 
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Generally avoid trans threads because I don't really understand it well enough to make a contribution and it's not something that directly affects me so I don't have any insights. So this is a drive by post.

I also think this thread should be nuked from orbit. Started by a shit stirring little bigot who for some reason people want to pussy foot around and make allowances and excuses for. Fuck that, I'll call it as I see it. Whatever they may have been before coop is now just a weirdly obsessed nasty piece of work now.

But if it's not going to be binned off it would be improved greatly if the likes of Athos , Border Reiver and the like could be persuaded to stfu. You're not helping.

What makes you say that? Genuine question, zero agenda or clue what coop has said to make you see them that way.
 
One of the more grimly fascinating and to be honest quite scary things about this debate is the level of obsession that some gender critical people have developed about this. A GC website has just been started for 'those we have lost' meaning people who they've lost relationships with due to 'trans ideology'. Marriages have broken up over this, people are no longer speaking to their kids, there are people who've lost all their friends and family and I don't believe it's just because they believe sex is real, but they've become obsessed with it and can't talk about anything else and the venom, rage and hatred is staggering - not even just towards trans people anymore but anything they consider woke. And most of these people are very respectable, otherwise politically middle of the road, often in professional jobs like law or journalism, and they are utterly convinced that trans people are going to destroy the world somehow.

Glinner is probably the best example of someone whose thrown their life and family away because of this, but there are other more concerning cases, people on benefits saying they are giving every penny they have to crowd funders, or no longer use womens toilets or go anywhere, or shop anywhere because they boycott a business at the slightest hint of support for trans people. It's like conspiracy theory on stilts in terms of the impact it's having on people's lives, and there's no end of grifters emerging to exploit that. And it's not even hatred of men, which you might rightly expect from lesbian separatists like Shiela Jeffreys or someone, lots of them are men, most are completely relaxed about actual men working in prisons or single sex spaces, and Posie is not the only one who has called for male protection in those spaces, she's just the most high profile. It's about trans people, queers, drag queens, kinky people, sex workers and often just younger and trans inclusive feminists - the hatred for Sisters Uncut on GC twitter following the Clapham vigil was astonishing. I don't think I've ever seen a moral panic quite like this before and it is genuinely frightening where it could lead if it becomes more widespread because a considerable number of people seem to have lost all sense of proportion and restraint.
 
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Keira Bell is the detransitioner who went to court to try and prevent children and young people from having access to trans healthcare and had some success, although that's now been largely overturned - although the threat to Gillick competence is still very real. Last week her legal team, led by a notorious barrister from the religious right, attempted to intervene in a court case to prevent a young trans person being proscribed blockers that they, their parents and their doctors all supported. Thankfully the court told them to fuck off. These aren't just people on twitter.

Bell overturned in Court of Appeal today, but unsurprisingly as some of us have been saying for some time, trans stuff is also wedge issue being exploited for further regressive shit... looks like they could be gunning for Gillick which any feminist should be concerned about...

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Anyway, last post from me on urban, as this place is dead to me however hard I try x
 
Bell overturned in Court of Appeal today, but unsurprisingly as some of us have been saying for some time, trans stuff is also wedge issue being exploited for further regressive shit... looks like they could be gunning for Gillick which any feminist should be concerned about...

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Anyway, last post from me on urban, as this place is dead to me however hard I try x
I’m in no way going to try and convince you to stay but I am really sorry about this and sorry that this doesn’t feel like a warm and supportive place for you. Please take care.
 
I'd said earlier that I thought Bell would be overturned on appeal (and quite rightly). I can't see the Supreme Court overturning Gillick.
 
I'd said earlier that I thought Bell would be overturned on appeal (and quite rightly). I can't see the Supreme Court overturning Gillick.
Neither can I, but nor can I see the Tavistock reinstating even its woefully inadequate services while there's talk of an appeal.

That's how lawfare works.
 
Neither can I, but nor can I see the Tavistock reinstating even its woefully inadequate services while there's talk of an appeal.

That's how lawfare works.

I think they'll probably revert to what they were doing, as I've no doubt they sincerely believe it's in their patients' best interests (and they're probably right). But, in any event, they're currently reviewing the service.
 
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