Is Brexit actually going to happen?
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Yossarian
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More like a turnip kingdom.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
a kale kakocracy
tommers
Busta Rhymes is an unstoppable movement
You are aware of Nigel Farage right? Standing in front of the gold lift with Trump, talking about taking down the metropolitan elites. Some people lap that shit up.
Proper Tidy
Arsed
Half the electorate voting Tory would be a huge majority tbf
TheHoodedClaw
acknowledging ur soup leg
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Good. Disgusting, smelly things, eaten by smug twats who litter with the skins.
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
They do, but that stuff has a limited shelf life and although it portrays itself as (and recieves the publicity as if its) popular it is very questionable whether it actually is. Look at Farage's big rally yesterday, with heavy press coverage, images of an auditorium applauding the leader repeatedly and at which none of the public were actually present (or invited).
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
tommers
Busta Rhymes is an unstoppable movement
And yet here we are. With government trying to suspend Parliament in order to do the thing he has been banging on about for years.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
if there is a ndb then i wonder what will happen to all the money in the bp's coffers
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
The timing is all here.
If the oppo do prove capable of stopping Johnson's Brexit, the electorate will be fed the populist bollocks without ever having felt the 'pain' of the chaotic exit.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
tbh i don't think the oppo could halt a slow moving paper bag. so i will be very surprised if they manage to stop johnson.
I have wondered whether that's his preferred outcome.
Such a nasty, evil, divisive move and do unconstitutional. The move of a dictactor.
Hopefully, when parliament sits again and vote of no confidence will be motioned and past.
When's the protest, who do I write to?
Start a petition?
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Yeah, but I suppose it comes down to two things?
1. Swinson eating her words
& 2. The number of tory 'rebels' matching those LP nut jobs determined to vote against Corbyn
hash tag
Books, not bombs
How the duck do we stop this, just so unconstitutional and undemocratic. How arrogant do you need to be to do this. Still, at least he will go down as the minister who screwed up more than anyone else. Ever.
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SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Indeed. This now is all just him setting himself up to be able to say 'I tried to stop this' after the inevitable catastrophe.
dessiato
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Do you get white bread and butter with a large cup of tea with it?
that looks lush
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
So in summary, Corbyn and Johnson both want the opposite of what they say they want.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
never been there so i don't know
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
If it gets that far they will, though whether people buy it two years after the last time it was served up is another question - as is whether they'll be able to trump the (presumably) Labour narrative that this is a government which is profoundly dangerous, which is led by someone who has a long history of fibs, which isn't run in the interests of the people, which is directly responsible for the chaos of Brexit in particular and the state of the country in general and whose manifesto will probably be full of things Labour promised in 2017.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
one thing 2017 should have taught us is that the party calling the general election faces challenges to retain control of the narrative. i've said before i think johnson the one man in the country who could deliver a corbyn government and i think that may yet be the case
Tacit Apathy
I Guess...
There's been quite a few theories thrown around that Labour's lacklustre engagement with the Brexit issue up until recently has been a part of some Grand Strategy of letting the Tories well and truly 'own' Brexit, so that when they inevitably turn around to blame Labour they can put their hands up and say "no, this was all you".
Now that Boris has taken over from May, and seems to be performing slightly better - see; still badly - Corbyn has realised Labour need to be definitive on this issue, somewhat too late in my mind. That said, they do seem to be aware of the damage of a No Deal Brexit and are seeking to avoid it. I don't think they'd be quite so willing to risk the jobs and economic wellbeing they claim No Deal will cost (and I believe it will) simply to get elected, but I've long since surrendered any assumptions that our current bunch of politicians have any spine and any desire for anything other than power.
It's a real shame that the Opposition have fallen this low, if this is the case. I'd love for there to be something new and fresh in politics that does away with all of these old, moribund political parties trapped under the weight of their own history, but we saw how that went for ChUK. The Lib Dems I will reserve judgement on - I won't easily forget the financial burdens their student loans surrender has cost my family.
Tacit Apathy
I Guess...
Other than Theresa May's thrice rejected deal, I can't think of the last time significant numbers of Tories went against the Party. Now that it has become a matter of electoral life and death for the party (with Boris tying them to No Deal 31st October or bust), preventing No Deal is likely to do irreversible damage in the eyes of their supporters - the only people left who will support them.
They don't do well with young people, they don't do well with 25-40 year olds, they don't do well with anyone except the people who already vote Tory, and the Brexit Party like UKIP before them wait in the wings.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
that looks lush
Mushy peas in a ramekin is incorrect.
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