Silas Loom
Hated by both sides
You're the one who wants to waive the baguettes, I'm suggesting that they need to be enforced.
Is Brexit actually going to happen?
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You're the one who wants to waive the baguettes, I'm suggesting that they need to be enforced.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Out of complacency, I'm guessing - don't think Cameron thought he could lose.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Silas Loom
Hated by both sides
Meh. Qu'ils agitent de la brioche.
Silas Loom
Hated by both sides
So? We had an exemption from "ever closer union", should that sort of thing upset you.
gosub
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the exemption was granted at the same time as our mathematical ability to block EUrozone taking over the shop was removed. I said at the time we'd be the lunatic relative locked in the attic....more so now
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Evidence that the sun shines on the self-righteous.
MightyTibberton
Well-Known Member
not even the winners know what they've won!
gosub
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Yossarian
⏭️
Driving one of these does look like it could be fun - but as far as perks go, I think I'd rather have cheap flights than free spuds.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
I'm disappointed.
Winot
I wholeheartedley agree with your viewpoint
Which is why we now need to discuss the terms.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Frau Bahn hates flying but loves chips, so, ya’ know...
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
The remarkable thing is despite the wailing and a weeping of the Remainers there is little or no evidence to show any change in views over leave or remain.
Silas Loom
Hated by both sides
Apart from, you know, YouGov’s tracker. Which does just that.
There's a small change tbf. I think a lot of that is just down to how disasterously the process is being managed by the government though.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
‘Tis the thing with liberals who consider themselves to be educated; James O’Brien on LBC spent forever being a condescending twat comparing those who fancied Corbyn’s chances to those who believe in fairies at the bottom of the garden. He got his arse handed to him on that one, so he’s full on ‘leave are thicko racists’, five days a week, bleating away. This is the same James O’Brien who used his position as a journalist to back the Iraq war, as the ‘facts’ showed the threat Saddam posed. The posh prick should be signing on, yet he continues to get paid to push his bullshit on to the unwashed.
sealion
Conformity is the last refuge of the unimaginitive
Will remainers be happy if this happens ? https://www.politico.eu/article/spds-martin-schulz-wants-united-states-of-europe-by-2025/
gosub
~#
Posted it earlier. Looks more likely than ever. Remember driving to Kerry a few years back and they were discussing the EUrozone problems on the radio, and it was talked about like a forgone conclusion... Turned out biggest road block was Germany, but now Merkel needs Schultz to form a government...
Winot
I wholeheartedley agree with your viewpoint
As noted earlier, UK had an opt out from that. Personally I’m not bothered, but I recognise tide is in other direction in UK.
Raheem
Well-Known Member
It's a shame that what anyone in the UK thinks is currently all but irrelevant.
Streathamite
ideological dogmatist
sure, but that's because the economic shitstorm hasn't even really begun to hit home yet. and it will - we can't possibly avoid it
Equally, sooner or later May will have to choose between the softest of Brexits - that means, continued free movement, ECJ jurisdiction, and trade rules as dictated by Brussels, or an economic catastrophe.
THEN we'll see the moment of truth
MightyTibberton
Well-Known Member
I heard some pollster today (or yesterday, or the day before, it's all a blur now) say that people are changing their views around the edges of Brexit - in the direction of having a less favourable view of how things will go, less favourable view of how the Government is handling negotiations things like that - but very few are changing their view on the central question of how they would vote, which he reckoned was too fundamental, tribal and tied up with personal identity to shift.
gosub
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can get out of ECJ thorough EFTA court and at some fucking stage THE NOTION THAT RULES ARE GLOBAL MUST KICK IN otherwise your iPhone wouldn't work globally, imperical America wouldn't be buying the same cars as metric EUrope, bananas would be more bendy....
and/or economic catastrphe
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gosub
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IS IT?
I'll take the learning curve of the incomers any day over the stale and clockwork thinking of the niche as was, of the UK EUropean debate.
redsquirrel
This Machine Kills Progressives
Is it. Then why did so many in France vote for Le Pen and Mélenchon in the presidential elections, both who took something of an anti-EU line. The FPÖ took 26% of the vote in Austria in October, the AfD had it's best ever result, likewise the PVV in the Netherlands - all anti-EU to a greater or lesser degree.
If the "tide" is in the other direction that's because liberal politicians are beloved of the EU, not because their electorates are.
EDIT: Oh and add the Portuguese communists to the list too. And FSM in Italy.
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Silas Loom
Hated by both sides
The interesting thing now will be how loud the squeals of betrayal are from the Tory ultras.
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